So this time it's the Native Americans going after Tom Barnard. I'll watch with amusement to see if Clyde Bellecourt can extract even an ounce of pain from the Twin Cities' most dominant entertainer (and, in my opinion, most potent "new media" political pundit). But based on historical precedent, I'm be betting heavily that Barnard will dismiss any protest Bellecourt can muster with the sangfroid of a grazing water buffalo flicking a buzzing gnat away from his big, muddy rump.
(Here is Terry Collins' story from this morning's Strib. The 19 year-old file photo gives you some idea how much contact Barnard has bothered to have with the Strib in all those years. He doesn't need them in the least.)
Why won't Barnard suffer? Because his key audience loves this stuff. It is exactly what they want to hear. It is the anti-MPR. You can't feed them enough knuckle-headed riffs on drunken/in-breeding/selfish/rich/dirt-poor Indians, ungrateful/unassimilating Hmong (his 1998 run-in with SE Asians), or, well hell, pick any group that isn't blue collar and white and take all the shots you want.
The experience elsewhere with the excesses of Opie & Anthony (they encourage a couple to have sex in St. Patrick's Cathedral, get canned and soon hired back WITH a fat satellite deal to boot) and Don Imus tells you everything you need to know about the public appetite for the Barnard/morning "zoo" style shtick. It is too immense for any programming executive to resist. In this not at all unique universe your cred for "being real" is enhanced by warehouse john toilet jokes, anything involving the word "tits" and verbally mugging minorities.
How popular is Barnard? According to the most recent Arbitron ratings, released last week, (the VERY BUSY Ms. Rybak and I will break them down later today or early tomorrow), Barnard, put simply, IS morning drive radio in the Twin Cities. Everyone else could save the electricity. Among men 25-54 his show gobbles up a 31.7% share of the audience. 93X, (KQ's sister station), is second with 8.2%.
Among all men 12 and older, Barnard has a 24.5% to 9.1% lead over second place WCCO-AM.
Among WOMEN 25-54 Barnard is FIRST, with 11.8% of the audience, with KS95 second a couple points back.
Point being, Barnard not only has nothing to fear from Clyde Bellecourt, but if the past is prologue, he'll emerge from this incident stronger in the eyes of his core audience for having taken shots from precisely the kinds of people they tolerate least.
Five years ago I got tipped to the intriguing correlation of Barnard's area of highest listener-ship and Jesse Ventura's heaviest voter turn-out, namely, the northwest exurbs around Ramsey and Coon Rapids. One thing led to another. For a little atmosphere I went out to a huge bowling alley up in Ramsey to talk to people at random, and sure enough almost everyone, men and women, not only listened to Barnard's show but were in complete synche with him on cultural-political issues. Paul Wellstone was a wimp. Norm Coleman, (who courted Barnard assiduously for years and now is best of buddies), was a shining light of reason.
Digging a little deeper, the racial tenor got pretty nasty. A few too many of Barnard's most avid fans held unabashed grudges against "niggers" and "gooks" who they thought were cutting in line ahead of them for jobs and privileges. In the story I included the dark and pathetic ramblings of one postal service employee for anecdotal effect.
More significantly though, in terms of the undeniable influence of "new media", i.e. people employing Imus and Barnard's infotainment pop demagoguery, shrewd political operatives like Brian McClung, now working for Tim Pawlenty, freely conceded the importance of Barnard's endorsement, tacit or explicit. You had to try getting on his good side. Barnard's stamp of approval, several offered, was more important to them than an endorsement by the Star Tribune. (No one mentioned the Pioneer Press).
If you missed that story, there's a reason. After seven torturous re-writes the PiPress killed it, allegedly on the basis that I did not ID the postal worker I quoted, in violation of the paper's strict "no anonymous sources" policy. I pointed out that he had good reason to fear disciplinary action from his employer were he to appear in print sounding like a racist turnip.
But by that time KQ's manager at the time had gotten wind of the piece and called upper level editors to complain that I had filled in one day on KFAN, a clear display of conflict of interest KQ claimed, so I should not be allowed to write negatively on Tom Barnard. (I had received permission from the paper to do the radio bit, and said repeatedly on-air that I wasn't being paid.) In truth, the story was a very difficult sell because the managing editor in charge at the time had never heard of Tom Barnard, and none of the brass was too pleased at me suggesting they were no longer on the short list of "must get" endorsements in our rapidly evolving media universe.
The point(s) of that little drama were these:
(1.) Barnard is remarkably influential with a certain, large demographic that mainstream newspaper managers believe they must appeal to, (usually with outdoors and sports coverage, etc.), but in fact generally ignore, therefore don't understand particularly well and rarely interact with in their personal lives.
(2.) Barnard is a powerful indicator of the gulf between the "news" audience that is open to whatever the facts may show, and another substantial group, marked by palpable resentments, that is primarily interested in personalities that fortify their unexamined prejudices.
Tommy'll survive this one just fine.


It seems a lot of people who despise KQRS, Limbaugh, Hannity, or anyone else spend a lot of time recording the programs, taking quotes out of context, and then try to destroy succsessful media careers with race baiting and other similar means. (Similar to what is done to right of center students at College campuses.)
Is the left point of view ALWAYS the pure good one? I guess it is. I really dont spend a lot of time listening to the left talk shows, but I also dont demand they be taken off the air if they promote a political agenda I dont agree with. And in all fairness the few samples I have listened to I was not impressed with (I noted my one morning listetning to Coleman). Maybe Nick was Mr. Personality the other hours he was on the air.
The problem with the audiences of the right of center talk shows are that they are listening to the programs, working, or living their lives, and spending less time trying to silence any oposing view point, or listening to podcasts and tapes of shows that they allegedly despise.
Brian - I would invite you or someone else to visit with people from my office, which is 97% college educated, and a large portion of that with a higher educated degree. From conversations I have had, about a thrid listen to KQ, and this spreads from liberals to conservatives. The Coon Rapids example would be like me going to a radical socialist conspiracy meeting in Minneapolis and then concluding that Democrats feel that our troops are terrorists, 9/11 was an inside job, and we should hand out birth control in sixth grade.
I dont agree with all the messages the programs I listen to give. Somedays I even use my will power to turn the dial if the conversation is too far of the bend or in a KQRS example too focused on bodily functions. I will at least admit that, no one on the left will even admit that Nick Coleman may not have been cut out for radio (he was a victim).
So, are all the messages and speech from Franken, Coleman, MPR, Jon Stewart, Bill Maher (did anyone here call for his firing when he joked about life and death on the Vice President?, MSNBC, Oberman...all 100% pure and good? I dont record and analyze them, you will have to tell me.
LAMBERT: What is in the water when any time you criticize one of these gas bags the right starts howling "censorship", quoting the First Amendment and complaining how critics are trying to "take them off the air"? "Personal responsibility" is a far more accurate context. As in ... say whatever you want .. but be big boy or big girl enough to take the heat when the targets of your "free speech" start exercising their's.
And as I explained in the post and to another commenter, my choice of a big bowling alley/entertainment complex in Ramsey was based on THAT AREA BEING THE CONFLUENCE OF VENTURA AND BARNARD'S GREATEST APPEAL. I'm sure the demographics in a white collar corporate environment would be different, but the point was WHO was rallying to Ventura AND Barnard?
And I'll defend Nick's radio show. He likes a good meltdown more than I do. But he's Irish and I'm French. I thought he was funny ... and in constant command of his facts. And he certainly wasn't playing the race and culture cards for commercial success.
"Pierre" Lambert rarely leaves the gently verdant tree lined enclave of Edina, where is is most often seen clutching a latte and walking a French circus poodle.
Go figure.
I know for a fact he has never been west of 101.
He would have been spotted on our Anti-Diversity Ensuring City Liberal Lookout Early Warning System.
Sheesh, Mattson, calm yourself.
I live in one of the northern suburbs. I listen to Barnard. I think the show's funny. I also drink at the Mermaid, snicker every time someone says "Coon Rapids" and drive up Highway 10 to the bright green "XXX" store in Anoka. Oh, and I voted for Jesse.
The only reasons I don't fit Lambert's stereotype are that I'm a Democrat, work a white-collar job and don't bowl.
On second thought, Mattson is right. Lambert, you went way too far this time. I demand an apology right now you [edited insensitive racial slur]. How dare you write things that put into jeopardy the good reputation of my beloved community.
-Steve in Coon Rapids [heh]
LAMBERT: You're right. Allowing a subset of the population to self-indict is cruel and reckless. I apologize.
Geez, why don't you just come out and use the word 'hicks' ? You paint the northern suburbs as some sort of low-class, uneducated, ghetto area. Before moving to Andover, I used to live in Ramsey. It, like a bulk of the metro area is filled with a variety of people. It seems that the southern metro thinks of the northern metro as some far-away foreign planet. Ramsey isn't but 20 minutes from downtown. Go 20 minutes south of downtown and you are in Burnsville - an area you'd hardly be painting as the ignorant-masses of Barnard devotees. The northern metro gets a bad rap from crappy articles such as yours. You drive to a Ramsey bowling alley -> can you stereotype the environment/class of people anymore? It's pathetic. How about some facts to support that the northern metro is more sympathetic to Barnard? I'm a computer programmer for a company in Bloomington and 85% of our office's workforce lives south of the river - and (to my dismay) a large chunk of these white-collar workers listen to Barnard every stinking morning. Did you ever visit an office in Ramsey, Anoka, or Coon Rapids and check their opinions for some balance to your article? Did you check any western, southern, or eastern twin cities outer-ring suburbs for their opinions? Your ignorance and insulting stereotyping in this article is outright appalling. How pathetic, ironic (and tragic), considering your article was about Barnard spewing idiotic, stereotypic diatribe.
LAMBERT: As I said, I went up to Ramsey because polling data from the '98 election showing the highest turn out for Ventura and radio ratings and research on where Barnard was most popular. I -- as in ME -- did not make up the locale. If the conversion had been in Burnsville I'd have gone there. Maybe I should have gone to corporate office complex for the anecdotal stuff. But the idea was to find whoever after work hours and in a casual mood. Maybe discreet, sensitive white collar types don't bowl. But they could have been there instead of postal employees.
Molly Miron at the Bemidji Pioneer and Park Rapids Enterprise
(www.parkrapidsenterprise.com I don't know how to link it here) writes that Barnard and Traen will be reprimanded. This did not appear in the Strib.
Also from Molly: "In a telephone interview as he was traveling home to Red Lake Monday afternoon, Red Lake Chairman Floyd “Buck� Jourdain Jr. said the Indian Affairs Council sent a formal complaint to KQRS after the September broadcast, but Red Lake Nation, the Mdewakanton Sioux and AIM members decided they needed more response from the radio station and a face-to-face meeting." Also not in the strib.
Did the Strib miss these or is Molly wrong?? I'm betting Molly got it right. Its a big miss for the strib if she did.
LAMBERT: Interesting.
It seems a little incongrous (ie, hypocritical) that Nick Coleman was dissapointed am950 wasnt adhering to union pay scale when Nick was more than happy to take the Star Tribunes columnist position even though they werent adhering to guild posting guidelines for the position.
I'm also surpirsed he was so worried about salary. He earns what, $85 - 95k as a columnist? Thats a high paying job. His second job should have been just for the cause. I mean gosh, thats what he asks all us to do, isnt it?
LAMBERT: I am not an expert on Guild employment contracts, but Nick's columnist position, I'm guessing, comes with a base point, negotiated by the Guild. And what are you suggesting, that Coleman thinks we should work for a higher moral glory? I missed that one.
I think the reason the station moved faster on this issue, than it did on the Hmong and Somali cases, is because the statements made were factually wrong and potentially libelous. Whereas the other cases (if I remember correctly) were about remarks that were suppose to be humorous but the Somali and Hmong communities took them as racist. I'm not a lawyer, so as Terri Traen says "don't quote me on that."
As for Mr. Bellecourt...
Many in the Twin Cities Indian community will not be nominating him anytime soon for Sainthood. However, if you want the Mainstream Media is this town to pay attention to your cause you call on Clyde. He seems to be the only Indian the media in this town can recognize.
LAMBERT: I'm still surprised KQ slid out of this without even a brush with some kind of monetary pain. I always wondered what kind of check they handed over to Bret Favre (or his favorite charity) as a result of that Crazy Cabe bit years ago. More than Bellecourt got, I'm betting.
With all due respect let me respond to you your counter points #3 and #5 and #6.
#3 - If Nick Coleman was any bit of a dynamic personality instead of a disgruntal, jealous, angry, self hating columnist he would be able to engage his audience instead of tear into those he claims to support by calling them stupid for listening to Barnard.
#5 - Just becuase a politician appears on a show, it does not mean they endorse all the content. When was Coleman "kissing" up to the morning show? How many times has he been on the show the last six years? (I know the number). If politicans stayed off shows because they offended a segment of the population they would not be appearing anywhere.
#6. Bellecout's history is an issue. If this were a conservative going after a liberal and they had as much bagage as Bellecout does, you and othe rlike minded writers would be all over it. In Curt Brown's piece which is factually inaccurate, he spellut every controversey Barnard has been involved in, but not so much as a line on Bellecout's shady past.
LAMBERT:
#3(a) -- As someone who occasionally haunted Coleman's AM950 show, and likely drove down his numbers, I want to set the record straight. Coleman QUIT. He wasn't fired. As much as he and I wish someone in this market would test a progressive format, it isn't AM950 as it exists. For one thing, whoever owns it would have to be genuinely progressive enough to honor union values by at least offering prevailing union wages. Coleman was being paid barely half that.
As for "tear (SIC)into those he claims to support". Who is that? Racist yahoos? Has Nick claimed to "support" them? As I read his stuff he finds them obnoxious.
#5a Norm's pursuit of Barnard and Barnard's demographic was more avid than just his on-air appearances.
#6a The issue is Barnard. Just like when the Somalis or the Hmong went after him and it wasn't about them.
Hey, 108's petitio principii presents the opportunity to properly use the phrase, "begs the question." His assertion that "The stronger candidate always wins..." begs the question: What constitutes the "stronger" candidate? The fact that they won? Who'd Larry Craig beat?
LAMBERT: And in the context of Bush v. Gore, define "wins".
(sigh) What I'm still saying is that MPR's not as good as they think, and never tired of telling the listening public, they are. But without ever having a critical mirror held in front of them, living in their own self-congratulatory echo chamber makes it unlikely that it'll ever change. Yes, they're (usually)better than KQ and Clear Channel's holdings. The pledge dollars come steadily on in. So what do they care? Just like Tommy B, there's no incentive to change the act. One might argue that that's where the role of the critic in society comes into play. But, hey, mock on.
Maybe Levine'll write something.
LAMBERT: Note to Levine -- Rip Gary Eichten.
Always, always, always go over the Arbitrons with a fine-tooth comb on this blog!!!
Personally, I stopped listening to KQ in the morning, and most other times of the day, about 4 years ago, for mainly one reason: it got boring. Certainly I don't agree with most things Tommy says, and Terry IS an idiot...but it going boring, and remains boring...and I had been listening for nearly 10 years at that time It seemed the only thing I liked about the show were most of Tommy's interviews, especially wth actors and comedians.
Now, the funniest thing I hear on the radio in the mornings is Stephanie Miller on Air America (who pull more listeners than the meager arbs indicate). And I have Sirius and grew up with Stern (and Imus who I have always loved) but that stuff just got old for me (and I'm "only" 40). Sometimes you just have to...dare I say, evolve (shudder)?
December '05 I went to see Gilbert Gottfried at Treasure Island - the show was sponsored and hosted by the KQ morning show (sans Barnyard), and the audience was CLEARY all Tommy sycophants, nary a 71-year old gray hair in the place. But PLENTY of KQ shirts and mullets in the house!
LAMBERT: When my kids were in grade school we used to play a game. Get in the car to go to school, turn on Barnard and the gang, and count how long before someone made a reference to shit, diarrhea, tape worms, farts ... the longest was 90 seconds. By high school they were out of the "target demo".
Right, right, right, and wrong, wrong.
Yes, Tommy B is a powerful cultural force in the state and your radio biz observations are correct.
Still, Tommy B's skepticism didnt stop Amy Klobuchar from being elected. Its still about candidates. The stronger candidate always wins, and this is borne out by Coleman v Mondale, Pawlenty v Hatch, and Klobuchar v Kennedy. The unwashed masses can only be led so far by the Tommy Bs of the world. Its still about candidates.
As for the racial tenor... The undercurrent of animosity towards racial minorities among those cultural neanderthals who still dain to express those opinions in polite company is not about jobs. I don't think anyone in those demographics in the suburban office park manufacturing shops feels job competition locally. What Barnard expresses and his listeners are in sync with is a resentment towards welfare. Liberals remain fatally weak there because of their inclination to be too generous, which necessitates taxing more money from the middle class for funding.
The paradox the Democrats have been faced with for decades is not a matter of rich vs middle class. Its middle class vs the poor. This is the vein Tommy B taps. Its Whats the Matter with Kansas and several other pieces gets wrong.
All in all, I'm not sure what the kerfuffle is all about. However inarticulately expressed, is someone like Traen inaccurate when she expresses that about a place like Red Lake? KQs venue is probably where this idea was cemented that hordes of people are relocating here from Chicago for greater welfar benefits. Thats not something the papers would elaborate on. But is it innacurrate, or should people just not say that?
Keep in mind, I say this with the belief that the dominant culture here is really not as bigoted as its made out to be. These folks in Anoka county are Reagan Democrats, they could very easily be real Democrats.
LAMBERT: The right-wing pitch, echoed by Barnard at al is a matter of convincing the credulous middle and lower middle classes that PEOPLE POORER AND LESS INFLUENTIAL THAN THEM are most responsible for what's wrong in their lives. Welfare chiselers! But never mind a $2.4 trillion debt tab for Iraq, barely audited Pentagon funding and constant frauds, huge pay-outs to pharmaceutical companies via a Medicare bill written by their lobbyists. And let's not mention our HMO system.
Considering the stagnant wage and family income growth of almost every percentile up to close to the 90th, this is classic misinformation and manipulation campaign. Extraordinarily cynical. But it works. I'm not denying that.
During a chat this morning with his good buddy, Vince Flynn, who writes the right-wing wet dream spy thrillers, Barnard and his brain trust got to discussing the bootlegging of books in China, and Tommy sent them all into paroxysms of laughter when he said, "Hey, I think I have a bootleg copy of your book, Vince. The cover says the author is Steve Frynn." Get it? Ha! See, your Chinese people can't pronounce the consonant, "R". Whereas, Tommy's Mandarin is flawless.
That said, the reason I was listening to Barnard was that it was an anodyne to the manically inane blather coming out of the mouths of MPR's "talent" when they go off script during pledge. Or, worse, Kerri Miller needlessly paraphrasing perfectly lucid and intelligible remarks being made by travel writer, Rick Steves just to hear to the sound of her favorite voice--hers. The self love is insufferable.
Yes, when they're not reading from a prepared script, I find the talent on MPR to be more painful to listen to than Barnard and Co. Their earnest self congratulation and generally out-of-touch sensibilities are a powerful emetic to a morning stomach. And when they're not demeaning an ethnic group or mocking the afflicted or kissing the butts of the rich and powerful, the KQ crew are sometimes pretty funny.
I'm with Levine on MPR.
LAMBERT: So you're saying you've given up on MPR, and are no longer listening? Or is this another plea to rip Gary Eichten?
I was going to say iPod. I listen to Car Talk, Sunday Sermons (Barriero), and other things on that.
One question is the stuff that KFAN podcasts is commercial free. Makes no sense to me what that business model is, but it saves me listening time.
LAMBERT: Dave, don't give them any ideas.
Missed this:
//1. "All the lefties in Minnesota listen to MPR. There's none of 'em left to program for."
This is my point exactly. MPR sucks all the air out of a space (progressive talk) that they don't really occupy! What are the physics of that?
LAMBERT: I should point out that the radio wizards saying this aren't exactly an enlightened, imaginative crowd. More to the point, as employees of much larger national concerns, they have no room and therefore no desire to test new formats ... which might cause a one or two quarter drop in ratings and revenue and lose them their jobs. It is much easier to make informed-sounding but essentially lazy claims like the bit about MPR.
On the other hand, I can't tell you how many of my (not all lefty) friends are turning off all commercial radio because there is no value to the content and ... they can't see the point in listening to a half hour of commercials every hour.
My brother admitted some time ago, without shame, that he listens to Barnyard every day. As far as I know he's (my brother) no racist nor bigot, and when he talked about KQ it was always "you can't believe what they said about..." infused with a bit of (feigned?) incredulity. As the Archbishop of the TC said some time ago in the Strib, notions of racial superiority underlie the concept of Minnesota Nice. Barnyard proves that.
LAMBERT: Well, I'm not going to spread Barnard-lovin' across all of Minnesota. But those numbers are amazing, and have been for years.
Jed's a film buff and sees with the world-weary eyes of Citizen Kane's editor of the same name. But, unlike Joseph Cotton, who played Leyland, I don't think Terry Traen has the capacity to take direction.
I have complete faith that she's really that clueless and lacking an robust pair of frontal lobes that enable her to say things like that while seated before a microphone and that her remarks in no way appalled Bernard, or anyone at KClueless. These philistines don't need stunts to attract their audience anymore than a turd needs gravy to attact flies.
Tommy turns into a baggy-kneed sycophant anytime he's actually facing someone face-to-face on the air, or even live on the phone. If he had to square off with Bellecourt or Jordain live in studio he'd need a pizza spatula to get his Sansabelts off. Nah, I think ya'll give the whole crowd WAY too much credit, Leyland to magine this as a preconceived ratings-priming stunt.
To paraphrase Deep Throat as he put it to Bob Woordward in the parking ramp in "All The President's Men," "these guys aren't that smart." As for Clyde and company's hope that Bernard and Traen would be canned, "follow the money."
LAMBERT: Amen to that. And everyone should keep in mind that while there are all sorts of people with lofty-sounding titles surrounding Barnard, HE gets the final cut on these issues, based on the staggering amount of revenue he pulls in.
Here by the way is an interesting take from Tom Taylor, the well-known national radio analyst:
-------------- Would ABC have handled the KQRS Indian protest the way Citadel just did?
I’m just thinking back to when highly-rated KQRS, Minneapolis morning personality Tom Barnard made remarks – a string of them – that offended leaders of the local Hmong Asian community. That ugly controversy dragged on for months, and the station basically just hung tough against the protests. Barnard also offended folks in the local Somali community with some ethnic remarks. But this time – after he and Terri Traen took some shots last week at supposed problems on a Northern Minnesota Indian reservation, like suicide and incest – the company that now owns KQRS reacted swiftly. Yesterday morning GM Marc Kalman met with representatives of the American Indian Movement and promised a whole program of responses, beginning with a public apology. That’s very different in character from the way ABC handled the protests several years ago. Citadel (says the Minneapolis Star-Tribune) will grant airtime to talk about positive issues in the American Indian community, will try to hire Indian interns, will invite members of two area tribes to be on the morning show with Barnard and Traen, and will keep airing PSAs for a suicide prevention hotline. Some Indian leaders wanted more – the jobs of some of the jocks. But Kalman negotiated enough concessions that the group went away happy enough. Did he give away too much, too soon? Or did he act promptly, to keep a potentially hurtful problem from blowing up on him? I suspect that many managers looked at the Don Imus-CBS situation in April – and learned. Indian leader Clyde Bellecourt had already drawn the Imus analogy in his public comments.
Source: Tom Taylor
The Imus shadow casts to Minneapolis.
With Don Imus apparently set to join the Citadel family, activists are closely watching how the company resolves a racially-charged situation at its top-ranked classic rocker KQRS. Citadel is moving quickly to diffuse growing anger by Native American leaders upset with statements by a morning show cast member. Following a meeting with tribal leaders, KQRS has agreed to run an on-air apology but no action was taken against any employee.
Source: Inside Radio.
Brian:
The hmong thing happned the week after, they were joking about it within days. The somali thing happened after CJ wrote her article that very week. You will have to point out the evidence of Barnard denying the comments for me to believe that, because I dont think Tom is that stuipd to think that people werent then or are not now recording every word he says.
Barnard makes as much fun of white guys in Coon Rapids as any other alleged disinfranchised group. Its a colaborative show with different perspectives.
The problem with his detractors and others in radio are they cant accept that people may listen to it just for a laugh, or to laugh at ourselves. I remember during Nick Coleman's disastorous morning drive show he spent a half hour complaining that the KQ audience was too stupid to not understand how unenlightened the morning show is, and how wrong they are to listen to it, etc...old Nicky didnt last too long did he? I dont take the show for gospel, but its a lot more entertaining than anything else in morning drive. They are self depricating, give equal treatment to all (yes, I will debate this with anyone who wants to), and are very Minnesota. To the person who thinks Mike Gelfand "should know better" - what is the obsession with anyone who associates with a right of center program that they are stuipd and clueless. Gelfand and Wise who are both left of center have held their own on debates of war, healthcare, race relations,...once again someone who has never listened to the show makes assumptions.
You mention that it troubles you that Pawlenty and Coleman would go on the show. How many times did Fritz Mondale or Wellstone show up on WCCO? How many times did Ventura show up on KS95? Anytime a right of center has a hook into a talk show its some how unethical, or troubling.
People in this forum would agree that its hypocritical for Larry Craig, or Newt Gingrich to preach morality when they themselves are behaving immorally. So why does not the same criticism go for Clyde Bellecout, an ex con who has made a name for himself lashing out unfounded allegations. Did he have to pay for the innaccuracies he spouted out?
I really would recomend people that want to trash Barnard and the show to actually listen to an entire show for awhile and then come back with the same conclusion. It would be just as easy for me to say that Al Franken's show (on the bankrupt Air America) promoted late term abortion, free contraceptives for middle schoolers, illegal immigration, flag burning, and any other radical cause.
On the Passolt issue - Why is it wrong for Passolt to be on KQ (he rarley provides any form of a controversial opinion) when national news anchors appear at Democratic fundraisers, or other news anchors in this town use the news to provide their global warming update (with no opposing views).
LAMBERT: I could spend an entire column answering all this. But briefly:
1. It took the Hmong community a while -- longer than a week -- to get word of Barnard's comments, and the "negotiations" (never involving Barnard directly) went on for weeks more.
2. Barnard claimed to not have said something -- one of the more provocative statements -- that he did. Bank it.
3. Nick Coleman's morning show didn't suffer from Nick so much as erratic, inexperienced management. (His take home check would barely cover Barnard's tips at Oceanaire.) Nick took the attitude that ripping a fat cat icon like Barnard was good for business since Coleman's intended demo had little crossover contact with Barnard's. Morever, Nick had the incalculable advantage of ... knowing what he was talking about ... unlike Barnard barking his assurances that the rich tribes for nothing for the poor tribes.
4. The complaint that right of center radio jocks are under constant attack for being "stupid" has resonance and legs when you start adding up the repeated assertions that: Rich tribes don't help poor tribes, they found weapons of mass destruction, Hmong immigrants should "assimilate or hit the goddam road", that a jock in his Empire St. studio is more in jeopardy of terrorist attack than a reporter in Baghdad, and on and on ... and on and on. Point being: They succeed on the basis of misinformation and bullshit.
5. Mondale on WCCO and Ventura (who did Barnard's show until they had a personal falling out) going on KS95, or KFAN is obscuring the point that a politician, a.k.a. a community leader, is endorsing Barnard and KQ's content -- the constant references to minorities, comical or ham-fisted, these repeated furors -- by kissing up to them like Coleman in particular has done.
6. Bellecourt's history is not the issue here.
7. If you want to make the case that Al Franken engaged in rank misinformation, baited racial prejudices and encouraged cultural intolerance ... I'm all ears.
Wasn't Jeff Passolt just named best male anchor in City Pages or some other place? That really defines how bad we are in this town. First an evening anchor shouldn't be tied to a morning show like Barnards and second we shouldn't honor his involvement.
I honestly have not listened to KQ for over 5 years now. How many times can you play those old Rolling Stones tunes? Stern wasn't funny and neither is Barnard. I am so happy to have XM radio for the morning drive.
LAMBERT: Uh oh, Dave just said the "X-word". If he mentions an iPod the slope is getting slipperier.
Don't you think this was some what contrived ? The current KQ billboard campaign declares "Our Lawyers Are Very Busy!" Like the swallows returning to Capistrano, Tommy B has to offend some one every 5 years to get us rubes to talk him up ...or down...but at least pronounce and spell his name right.
Audio equivilant of Red West Squeezing Elvis into the jump suit and taking him out on tour.
The death throes of a dying demo.
LAMBERT: You're hip to the biz, Jed. There is the tired old trick of management "disciplining" a supposedly "outrageous" jock by yanking him off the air for a few days. With a little help from credulous reporters, word could get around to the target demo that the "censored" jock is naughty buy. Not "naughty, naughty boy" as Larry Craig said of Bill Clinton, but naughty enough tittering teens had to tune in to see what he'd do next.
Interesting that this came out weeks after the broadcast. At least during the Hmong or Somali situations they were timley.
Should Clyde have to apologize for claiming Minneapolis cops urinated on two Native Americans where it turned out they had in fact urinated on themselves? Wasn't he in prison for awhlie?
Brian, I hope you dont discount that everyone who listens to the Morning Crew are backwoods rednecks with Confederate Flags hanging in their yards. It would not have a third of the audience if that was the case.
LAMBERT: Obviously the issue here isn't Clyde Bellecourt. It is the startling appeal of Tom Barnard, despite previous episodes of this sort, and dozens of other "outrageous" comments no specific interest group has bothered to protest. And, as I recall, there was a time lag in Hmong episode. Barnard insisted he never said the provocative things he was accused of saying ... then after a recording (he is working in a recorded medium) surfaced ... avoided comment of any kind. And as far as the percentages go, remember that as large as Barnard's audience share is, it represents only a fraction of those listening to radio, not the entire Twin Cities population.
The typical Minnesota casino scalpee is about 71-years-old and female. If they listen to radio at all it would be on the AM dial not on that new fangled FM.
If the casinos are advertising on KQ they are wasting their money anyway.
Even if they get Tom Barnard himself to apologize during the Morning Show, it would be like having a Grand Wizard apologize for a lynching at a Klan rally--everyone listening will take it for a joke.
LAMBERT: Why didn't I think of that?
I think it would be wonderful if all the casinos pulled their ads from KQ.
Won't happen though, because, well, all you have to do is look at the typical player at the casinos--Barnard fans all.
At least the Indians are doing the scalping this time.
Here are the "concessions" Indian leaders "won" from the station:
-- Broadcast a public apology.
(Most likely at 4 am on a Sunday)
-- Give equal air time to positive issues involving the American Indian community.
(How much time do they spend talking about American Indians--30 seconds a year, a month, a week?)
-- Work to hire American Indian interns.
(What Indian would want to work there?? Maybe they could read that apology.)
-- Continue airing public service announcements for the suicide hot line.
(again, 4 am on Sunday)
-- Invite members of the Shakopee Mdewakanton and Red Lake tribes to be on the morning show.
(Clyde Bellecourt is not a member of either. This will be the only thorn in the rather large backside of Tom B., if it ever happens. The Morning Crew will be on their best "Minnesota Nice" behavior during that show,then its back to biz as usual.)
LAMBERT: As Randy Newman sings so well, "It's Money That Matters". I don't see any here.
I have not resided in Twin Cities except for as a student 1968-72. I enjoy the KQ Morning podcast. Recently, the podcasts have contained separate apologies from Terri Traen and from Tom regarding their incorrect statements about American Indian communities and casinos. Those comments were placed in the middle of the show, and seemed sincere to me. If the same placement occurred in the live show, it would have been between 7 and 9 AM on weekdays.
The real power 'wingers on the right know that it's time for Laura Ingraham over at 1280AM The Patriot at 8am.
She gives the looney lefties a good ream every day on a NATIONAL scale.
Plus, she's better lookin' than ol' Tom.
Lambert, of course the northwest metro is ground zero for the not so silent majority.
They likes their snowmobiles and their Vikings.
Long time working class enclave. They tend to stick to what they learned growing up.
Good of you to leave the rarified air of 50th and France for your anthropological investigative musings, though.
Thank God you returned unscathed!
Care to update us on those in custody for the fires out in CA?
LAMBERT: Let me guess, according to Sean Hannity there's reason to believe it was Hillary herself, with a gas can and a lighter.
The real issue is not the man-boy freaks who love this guy's low-brow reach-arounds. The issue is how come Norm Coleman and Tim Pawlenty can get on the air with him anytime they want -- especially in the autumn of even-numbered years -- and apply their tuchus to his lips. Or is it vicey-versey?
LAMBERT: If you're asking me, I say Pawlenty and Coleman -- and whoever else can get a blessing -- need Barnard way more than he needs them.
That makes me sick. Not so much the Barnard piece--that's to be expected. But that newspapers are so hungry to go after audiences/readers they fear repercussions for printing the truth. Even when it comes to a friggin' story about Tom Barnard! The right-wing MoB might only be 100 strong. But they have used comment sections and reader mail to turn editors and writers into nothing more than used-car salesmen/women trying to sell cleaned-up stories emptied out of all their guts.
Loved the unpacking of the larger societel meanings behind Bernard's latest racist episode.
But is it too late to request that you and Ms. Rybak not bother to go to the trouble of recounting and parsing the radio ratings for us? I'm guessing that anyone who cares is already a subscriber to the service. Unless there's been a tectonic shift, which I very much doubt, maybe just write it up as a freelance piece for that RADIO magazine in exchange for some chain restaurant swag.
LAMBERT: Sorry Jimmy, you may have to avert your eyes. We will however dissect Gary Eichten's show, minute by minute.
The domination, for better than two decades, of the local morning radio market by Barnard's show -- the tired tunes, the crude humor, the laughing-too-hard minions -- is the biggest indictment going of Twin Cities culture.
Makes me nervous about being on the roads in the morning, frankly, to think that so many of my fellow citizens either turn to that crap soon after sunrise or are still listening behind the wheel.
Makes me nervous, too, that people who listened to Barnard when they were 20 still listen to him at 40. And that their kids apparently listen, too, no matter how uncool it is to have the same taste as Mom & Dad.
LAMBERT: Whenever someone says, "All life is like high school". I always think of Classic Rock radio, with its heady mix of Foreigner, Heart, poop jokes and race-baiting. It's like time has stopped.
I don't suppose you could post that entire surpressed story here, could you?
LAMBERT: I may check with the Guild on that one. The PiPress may have some legal claim. I don't know.
I'm not sure what it says about either town, but I'm fascinated by the fact that I could hear more left-leaning talk radio in Alabama than I hear in the Twin Cities.
LAMBERT: Talk to a station GM or program director and you'll get an answer along the lines of two things. 1. 'All the lefties in Minnesota listen to MPR. There's none of 'em left to program for." And 2. "They've got nothing to lose in Alabama. Stations here cost millions. You can't risk the trolls threatening advertisers with boycotts because they support someone who isn't Glenn Beck."
Hey, where's the dismissive snark after the post?
LAMBERT: I have a daily quota of dismissiveness and snark. Can't blow it too early. Otherwise I'd have to be civil by noon.
Bernard's who he is. And, sadly, the collective sensibility of MN is what it is. He couldn't improve even if he wanted to. And what demo study would motivate achange, as you point out? He doesn't see a problem.
Terry Traen is as dumb as a box of hammers. It's workin' for her. Hell, look who's president for two terms. Unless it's a lead solder problem in her pipes at home, I don't see her getting any smarter or less coarse, ever. The rest of Tommy B's sycophantic satellites are equally slack-jawed and drooling in their worldviews.
What's appalling is that Mike "Stretch" Gelfand continues to sell his soul on the installment plan by continuing to participate in their troglodyte confabs. Gelfand knows better. May have actually BEEN better at one time. But he willingly performs a home lobotomy and goes into the KQ studio and participates in their morning degredation of the culture for filthy lucre.
And does Jeff Passolt, FOX9 news anchor, still do the show? He, too, should pay a professional price for laying down with dogs. But I'm guessing he won't because it doesn't damage the bottom line. Hell, with their viewers, it probably burnishes his image. THIS is who we are, Minnesota.
As for people who guest host for the people whom they cover and write about, probably not worth the loss of credibility in exchange for the boost in ego gratification. But, hey, CJ does it. So it must be okay.