Less than a week before the MLB trading deadline, the Twins are not only eight and a half games out of first place, but fourth in the wild card race behind Cleveland, Seattle, and the resurgent Yankees. Proponents of getting a desperately needed bat or two to make a late-season run always point to the quality personnel already on the squad: Santana, Morneau, Mauer, Nathan, Hunter, Neshek, etc. There are two problems with this. The talent gap between the marquee guys and the rest of the ballclub is much greater than most teams, and certainly so compared to the teams contesting the Twins for that wild card spot (which also include Toronto, who would be tied with Minnesota with a victory tonight). Put bluntly, this team has no depth.
And incredibly green pitching. Say the Twins did miraculously manage to score a post-season berth. How do you line up your rotation for the ALDS? Santana, and then Bonser, and then Silva? Is that really going to beat the Red Sox/Angels/Tigers/Indians? But inexperienced pitching isn't as big of an issue as the dirty secret that has plagued this year's edition of the Twins: shoddy fundamentals. The team's base running has often been atrocious, and a story in today's Strib made note of how frequently players have failed in sacrifice bunt situations. Although the Twins' fielding percentage is 4th best in all of baseball, the 34 unearned runs they've allowed is strictly middle of the pack (7th in the AL, 14th overall), not keeping to the standard set by this franchise over the past decade.
All of the cheerleaders want Terry Ryan to trade some of his surplus pitching for a capable hitter or two. I'm all for that, so long as we're not renting a player and the bat(s) we get are going to be around for the next 2-3 years minimum. But let's repeat for emphasis: Any moves designed to make a last-ditch effort to secure a championship in 2007 are fools' errands. This team simply isn't ready for its close-up this season.
The NFL training camp season is likewise upon us, and in this football crazy area that's big news. I'll confess to not being much of a pigskin adherent, although I did play in high school and acknowledge that of all the team sports it is best suited for television. It is comical, however, to read the big blowout in today's Strib and count all the ways they try to paint a pretty face, under the guise of objective analysis, on the notion that this team is trying to compete without anyone even remotely ready to be their quarterback. Did anyone else watch Tavaris Jackson's two starts last year--after the then-rook openly and rightly conceded he wasn't ready? This is a kid two years removed from Division I-AA. Good luck with that. I'm not really qualified to parse X's and O's and can do little better than regurgitate conventional wisdom about the squad--the hope rests with the running game and the left side of the O line, plus the beefy dudes who share a last name in the middle of the D line--except for one thought: Why not try Mewelde Moore as a receiver? As the team's punt returner, he clearly is expected to have good hands and to function well in the open field. And I always liked Moore during his stints in the backfield--he's shifty and smart, with good physical instincts and reflexes as a runner. I understand that he is either dreadfully injury-prone or a bit of a wuss, depending on how much you want to knock his character. But the Vikes' receiving corps isn't exactly top-notch and what's the harm of giving him some reps and seeing how he pans out on the flank?
Finally there is the brouhaha over Tim Donaghy. My wonderfully hoops-centric readers have already been all over this one, ranging from Andy B's fire-alert alarm to Patrick's declaration of boredom over the whole scandal. I confess to an irresponsible sense of ennui. Yeah, I know that the integrity of my favorite sport has certainly been placed in jeopardy, and that those who have an animus toward the NBA--the style of play is too boring, the players are too thuggish, etc--will use this as further evidence that pro b-ball isn't worth their time. And I'm not minimizing the potential damage that can be wrought if refs other than Donaghy get fingered, or, god forbid, some players or coaches.
But what I keep coming back to is, what am I supposed to do or say in reaction here? I would argue that the person with the most power to respond to the situation, NBA commish David Stern, has demonstrated a long history of staunch--to the point of extreme--vigilance to shoring up the image and integrity of the game, especially with respect to casual fans and new markets, which is precisely where the Donaghy scandal can cause the most damage. And yesterday, Stern labelled this the "worst situation" in his 20+ year tenure. In other words, adding my outrage isn't going to make Stern any more determined to flip over every rock in every nook and cranny and impose the harshest penalties he can muster in order to not only eradicate this undeniable blotch on the history of the league, but serve notice and implement policies to ensure that it won't ever happen again. Put it this way: Is Donaghy a bigger scandal than steroids in baseball (and football and cycling and...)? Are NBA players more "thuggish" than football players, or is that line of thinking just a wee bit tinged with race? No, this is bad for the NBA, but it is not like I'm going to stop watching the game or feel like the league has deceived me for all my years of fandom. From what we know now, nobody knew about this (a la steroids in baseball) and happily looked the other way. And now that it is out in the open, well, Donaghy just has to be happy that it isn't the Puritan days and Stern isn't the leader of the town, or he would be burned at the stake, without any of his fingernails.
Andy B cited a typically riveting column by ESPN Sports Guy Bill Simmons. Now Simmons happens to be my favorite sportswriter on the planet, and I do think his citing of Donaghy's participation in the pivotal Game Three of the Spurs-Suns series, which everyone sort of knew was the real NBA Finals this season, is the gravest evidence for hoops junkies like myself that we need to take this thing seriously, that it may have fundamentally altered the course of the 2006-07 season. And while it does not approach the 1919 Black Sox scandal for pervasive and conclusive fixing of the results, whenever the stench of scandal can taint the crowning of a champion, it is a terrible thing. I'll wait and see how much it can be demonstrated that Donaghy threw that contest to the Spurs, but even if the evidence is minimal, the stench remains. It is not, however, strong enough to drive me away from my addiction to pro hoops and I am thankful that the commish is on the warpath so I can look forward to the upcoming season relatively confident that the cancer has been removed.
One last thing about Simmons. He makes a couple of good points--I too think the refs should be paid far more money and be held to a tougher standard, with more turnover of bad officials. And I also think they ought to rely heavily on the precious few great refs when it comes to the last couple of rounds of the series. I am less enamored with his desire to make the playoffs less of a East versus West so the stronger conference isn't penalized and the fans aren't robbed from saving the best match-up for last. If the conferences are to have any integrity, you need to match them up for the final (and by the way, that's the way football and baseball have always done it, despite periods of longstanding disparity in talent). And lastly, there is the caveat that, as is often the case, the virtues and vices in Simmons' style are often from the same root. The guy is a provincial fan, who treasures being part of a local community of like-minded folks who live and die for their team. Boston will always be his first love. So sure, right now in Simmons' three favorite team sports, Boston has the perennially contending Patriots and Red Sox and the woeful Celtics. Of course he's going to be down on the NBA. He tried to kindle something with the Clippers a couple years ago after he moved to LA (remember the paeans to Sam Cassell, a player upon whom he was strangely silent this year, eh?), but in many respects the Clips and the Lakers were as desultory as the Celtics this season. Taking meaningful passion for a team out of Simmons's arsenal is tying one hand behind his back, which is why he tried to compensate by slobbering all over Kevin Durant this NCAA season, in the hopes and expectation that Durant would end up a Celtic. If the Celtics do manage to contend for a crown this season and find themselves representing the inferior Eastern Conference in the finals, I suspect you won't hear as much from Simmons about Tim Donaghy, the terrible playoff system, or the horrible state of the NBA.


Yes, this is a bad move from a basketball personnel standpoint. From a business standpoint, it's a tough decision that Taylor had to make, and the ability to make decisions like this is one thing that separates him from other wannabe millionaires. He's not selling enough tickets to compensate for KG's deal and our roster of scrubs and prospects isn't enough to secure any solid help via trade. Taylor owns a team for the same reasons the other owners do - to make money. KG plays the game because he loves it and is a competitor to his core. He'll always be a Minnesota sports legend, and this will forever be one of the saddest days in my young sports-following history.
The personification of dedication and loyalty deserves nothing less than a ring, and I think many of us on this board will be cheering for KG and the Celts alongside the Wolves next year...
Ok I am guessing by now you heard the news. Personally, This is a bad move because we still haven't gotten rid of Ricky Davis, and we still haven't gotten ridden of T-hud, and what exactly are we going to do with Sabastian telfair? Ugg...this deal .. what is McCrazy doing?!? meh---I'll wait I havent figured the details or seen them totally yet. WHo knows maybe this is a good move.
Yeah, the last post wasn't carping on you Olo, because I know exactly where you are coming from and share many of the same sentiments.
Well gee. Everything you say makes sense, which is why I don't care if KG stays or goes. Simply put, Jefferson is not enough in return.
Taylor has been accepting the status quo forever. Besides the summer of Spreewell and Casell, the status quo of denial is par for the course. Your logic is dead on, but that makes KG the wrong sacrifice to cure the many mistakes made during the past three to four years (trading away two future picks, signing Hudson and Jaric, and having Blount on the roster, to name only a few).
KG's salary is difficult to work with. Yet, as I've always maintained, he's not the problem. The salaries of Jaric, Hudson, Davis, and Blount are the problem. If these four guys are worth their salary, we're a perennial playoff team. And if those guys are worth their salt, we could trade them and give our front office something to work with.
My problem as a fan is that a top notch organization does not let this happen. By failing to do a deal before the trade deadline, the Wolves guaranteed themselves to receive less the .50 cents on the dollar. A truly gifted GM would have either made the Chicago deal a year ago or secured a top pick in this year's draft.
In the end --- sour grapes.
Olo--
The days of getting even close to equal value for Garnett are gone. The two deals that were most enticing were the original Celtic trade that Garnett and his agent apparently squelched, and the three-way involving the Wolves getting the #3 and #11 picks from Atlanta that one of the Hawks owners apparently vetoed. If you read between the lines, you see that the front office has been at the very least listening hard to every KG offer, and likely making a few of their own.
Here's the math: Season ticket sales and other ancillary team revenue are going to be way down next year. Garnett is going to be making between $22 and $25 million for each of the next two years, even as the Wolves rebuild with youth, and *maybe* sneak into the playoffs this season. Do you accept that status quo if you are Glen Taylor? Do you accept it if you are Kevin Garnett?
Maybe that's why Kevin McHale is still around, to take the hit of a Garnett departure. Again, pure speculation on my part. But a Garnett trade made the most sense right before the draft, and makes more sense before November 1 than it does mid-season, or before November 1 2008.
At this point, I could really give a crap if KG stays or goes. What gets me really upset though is that all we get is Jeffersen and some garbage. We'll likely get our pick back, which was part of the Wally deal, and one or two No. 1's. With Allen, Pierce and KG, a No. 1 from Boston, whenever it is, will be as valuable as a No. 2.
How do you do this trade? Only if KG demands it.
In other words, Seattle may end up getting more for Allen, then we'll get for KG, depending on how good Jeff Green is going to be.
We've said it over and over again. If you move KG, then McHale cannot make the decision because he'll screw it up. Taylor is also an idiot, but either way they are screwing this up.
Even making Boston take both Hudson and Blount in return does not equalize this proposed trade.
For what it's worth, ever since KG was aggressively shopped (or whatever you want to call it) before the draft, I figured his chances of staying with the ballclub were diminished to at least 50-50. It doesn't take a genius to see that the club is committed to its youth movement now and is no longer thinking solely in terms of putting pieces around Garnett. It is very easy to be of two minds about this, given KG's enormous talent and the equally enormous risk of getting nothing for him if he should decide to leave either via opt out or contract expiration.
That said, I'm personally not a great fan of dissecting rumors every whichway; it amounts to a huge waste of time when, as happens more often than not, the deal either falls through or wasn't that realistic in the first place. I won't mind if this board get used for that purpose, or if everyone wanders off to College Wolf's board to work themselves into a lather, but I'll wait until either I have something tangible to report on the situation or something actually happens.
There's a lot of buzz on the KG to Boston talks right now. Curious to hear what others think is fair.
It's strange trying to imagine Garnett playing in green this season ...
Sorry to be the loser that is plugging the forums that we frequent... but it's waaaaaaaay to hard to talk about all the KG rumor/trade discussion/possible deals here in real time. Lots of discussion going on in the TWolvesblog.com forums right now about all this stuff with links and everything:
http://www.Twolvesblog.com
Plus, then we don't have to infringe on/kill all the pretty good Twins discussion going on right now...
Sorry to interject the trade rumor subject, but here it is...
So the same trade comes up with boston, but this time minus their draft pick. We could go through the off season keeping davis and Telfair (for chemistry, i guess) and trading KG pretty well straight of for Jefferson.
Wow... at least McHale will keep his hero status in Boston.
Detroit appears to be in their end of the year tailspin for the second consecutive year. We took two out of three in Cleveland. As much as I would have liked to see the Twins roster improved, I am happy that Ryan as played it conservative, so far, and not pulled the trigger on a deal. The current selection of Twins are in the hunt and I see no reason to start the firesale.
The Twins have some problems that should be addressed with on the offensive side. Given this knowledge, It seems foolish to consider Hunter and Castillo as unsignable, given their current value to the club. We have some young pitchers developing who should get better next year in addition to the return of Crain and Lariano. If we knew which one of those pitchers would pan out and which ones will not, then certainly we should make a trade for some offensive power. However, I'm not yet confortable trading Slowey, Boof, Baker or Garze, or any other one coming along in the minors. Silva is the only one I'd be willing to give up for one of those .275 BA, 17 HR, 75 RBI. third baseman/DH.
Speaking of third basemen, I know everyone is down on Punto and, obviously, it would be nice to get more production out of him. But the top of the lineup goes, Costillo, Mauer, Morneau, Cuddyer, Hunter, Kubel. THe bottom of the lineup is Tyner, Bartlett, and Punto. The Piranhas have been more like crappies this year, and Punto certainly has suffered the greatest falloff from last year. However, if we could get more production out of Kubel and it we had a real DH instead of Tyner/Redmen that gave us the production we want out of Third base, then Punto's deficiencies on the offensive side would be much more palatable. Having Punto's defensive assets backing up the young pitchers is something that should not be dismissed so willingly.
The Twins could use a DH more than a third basemen to fill out their needs for more production. I admire Ryan for being patient with his young pitchers. We should add a player for some offensive punch this year to keep us in contention and keep filling seats in the metrodome for the remainder of the year, but we shouldn't give up much -maybe Silva. During the offseason, resigning current players should be the main priority for next year. Hunter, Catillo and Santana should be offered contracts that are competitive with the hope that they want to continue to play for the Twins - competitive, not record breaking/trend setting.
Sorry Twins Fans.
This one takes precedent.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/7073708?MSNHPHMA
Appears that a Celtics-Wolves trade for Garnett could be imminent. And it looks (from this account anyways) like we are getting a lot less than was previously discussed.
Hopefully, we get our pick back, and they take one of our crappy contracts too.
I am a too stunned to offer much feedback, other than to say Al Jefferson for the Big Ticket does not seem like fair value.
Britt,
I admit to ambition as to what the Twins need to do before Tuesday, but then I truly believe that the Twins need to be full-throated in pursuing prospects that will be MLB ready within the next year. And considering we have a Gold Glove level second baseman and one of the top 5 center fielders on the trading block, I see no reason why they shouldn't pursue top-tier prospects. I think the Dodgers are a good target, as an upgrade from Juan Pierre to Torii Hunter could very well put them over the top in the National League (they are also one of the few teams that could afford him, especially if they trade Pierre someplace else), and they have have solid infield prospects that the Twins need. In retrospect, the Seattle idea is pretty foolish, though I'll take the optimistic view and say that it is simply more chits to use in a Milledge or Abreu deal (though Nathan would have to take a set-up job on either team, I suspect).
Another thing is that the Twins have 5 solid hitters on the team right now and will be losing 2 of them at the end of the season. Maybe Bartlett or Kubel can step up and replace them (and I would actually bet than one or the other will do so), but the Twins would still need another batter to step up just to be as good as this year.
If we trade away our expensive stars, how likely is Santana to stick around? I say if we're going to dump a player like Hunter, we might as well give up on keeping Santana as well. I personally think the Twins can retain both if they really want to. Sid Hartman may be both senile and nuts at this point in his life, but he's possibly onto something with the deferred salary idea he floated in his column today.
Trading a player like Castillo makes more sense because he has no real value/connection to the franchise relative to his pay level. As much as I'm frustrated with Punto, you can slide him over to 2B until Casilla or another option presents itself and his hitting becomes much less of an issue.
Trading a player like Silva isn't so unreasonable when you consider how durable he is and what his salary is compared to some of the other pitchers out there. Is Jose Contreras with his 6.22 ERA really better? Is Matt Morris, who makes $10M compared to Silva's $4M? How about Kyle Lohse? Because those are the types of starting pitchers that are on the block.
On the baseball side, I think it's more clear than ever that the Twins would be foolish not to cut bait on the season. Even if they were able to make some upgrades for this year, we have to remember that the other contenders will likely do the same (case in point: today the Indians acquired Kenny Lofton to replace the corpse of Trot Nixon in their outfield), meaning there is probably not as huge a net benefit to the Twins as one might think. Better to just punt and start unloading the overpriced veterans for guys who can help them compete cheaply for the long term.
For example, I agree if the they had the chance to somehow snake Lastings Millege away from the Mets for one or more of their lame duck guys, they should do it like *that* [FX: snaps fingers]. Add in a deal to get Wigginton, bring up Casilla to learn on the job at second, and the Twins are ready to rumble for 2008 and well beyond.
This wouldn't be a deadline move, but do you suppose Wayne Krivsky is dumb enough to take Silva off their hands, the way he did with Lohse, et al?
I have not been bothered much by the ref tanking scandal simply because the quality of NBA officiating has been so shoddy for years it would be hard to tell the intentionally bad calls apart from all the regular bad calls.
I think--and I'm surprised more people don't talk about this--that the NBA never really recovered from firing all those veteran officials over the travel voucher thing a decade or so ago; afterwards it left the league with too few vets to tutor the younger refs coming in, resulting in officiating that's been wildly inconsistent ever since.
So the Twins called up minor league third baseman Brian Buscher, giving Punto an opportunity slide around the middle infield (or the pine, although that's less likely). Does that mean Castillo all but out the door?
Paul's right, one player will not fix this team. That's we've got to trade away our expensive stars for prospects and draft picks, and cross our fingers for a team that's "ready for it's playoff close-up" while Santana's still around.
Silva as trade bait? I thought Chad Hartmann was the man most guilty of impossible fantasy trades. Silva is, at best, wildly inconsistent and, more likely, two starts from being down the rabbit hole he lived in last year and every GM in baseball knows it.
The Twins are a good low salary team but one player will not fix them and executing four trades would probably be impossible. Hoping for four trades is an exercise in frustration. It won't happen. Enjoy the games in which they are competitive and turn off the radio/television during the blowouts.
The problem with trading for a DH is that it takes at-bats away from Rondell White. I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin' . . .
I'm afraid most of McCleak's proposals don't feel reasonable to me. Seattle would be crazy to give up Adam Jones, especially since the biggest bauble in the deal on their end, Nathan, is currently a poor man's Putz. As I said before I think it will take more than Castillo to pry Milledge away from the Mets, and I don't think the Dodgers want to part with arguably their top prospect for a Hunter rental and a fast-fading middle reliever.
On the other hand, Kevin Slowey for Dimtri Young strikes me as robbery the other way. I'm impressed by Slowey, moreso than Baker, though I will defer to the Twins scouts on such judgments, given their track record. Young's physique, character, and glove are all highly suspect.
Da Meat Tree would be a great addition to any team that gives DH at-bats to Jason Tyner, but it looks like he'll be a National for the next two years. And Jones would be a stellar pickup, but it's hard to imagine the Mariners making that trade. Otherwise, you're right, Silva could, and probably should, be trade bait. And we should certainly dump Rincon as soon as possible, while he still has any value left. But what about young pitchers? Is Slowey the one to drop, rather than Baker?
I think one option for the Twins would be to go after Dmitri Young. I personally believe in his rehabilitation, and that if he's on the Twins roster at the end of the season he'll be: 1) easier to sign for the Twins, and 2) cheaper than Hunter. There are also a couple trades the Twins could probably do to get the team set for the next few years:
Kevin Slowey for Dmitri Young
Torii Hunter and Juan Rincon to the Dodgers for Adam LaRoche (3B AAA, 302/384/568, 12 HR) and Tony Abreu (2B AAA, 347/397/503, 2 HR)
Luis Castillo for Lasting Milledge
Carlos Silva, Joe Nathan, and Jeremy Cummings (AAA, 57 SO/16 BB, 3.93 ERA) to the Mariners for Adam Jones (OF, AAA, 318/384/590, 24 HR).
I think the Mariners trade is the least likely, but the Mariners are in desperate need of a starting rotation upgrade and have to do something to step up to the Indians and the Angels, which means that they are motivated buyers (there's probably another team or two looking for rotation guys, meaning the Twins might be able to get a bidding war going).
This would give the Twins a lineup looking something like:
C - Joe Mauer
1B - Justin Morneau
2B - Tony Abreu
3B - Adam LaRoche
SS - Jason Bartlett
LF - Adam Jones
CF - Lasting Milledge
RF - Michael Cuddyer
DH - Dmitri Young
Backups: Luis Rodriguez, Nick Punto, Jason Kubel, and two outfielders out of Rondell White, Lew Ford, and Jason Tyner.
Starting Pitching: Santana, Liriano, Bonser, Garza, Baker
Relief: An AAA pitcher, Crain, Guerrier, Perkins, Reyes, Neshek.
This is pretty much the same pitching staff we have now, with the improvement of Liriano over Silva. And I truly believe this would be a much better lineup than the one the Twins are using now. It also frees up at least $20 million dollars (Hunter + Nathan + Silva), which would allow the Twins to have a serious shot at reupping either Santana or Cuddyer + Morneau + Young (I'm not counting on Pohlad being generous with his pocketbook two years in a row). But this team would be primed to compete for the next few years.
Wanted to separate my sports...
Castillo is a superlative rent-a-player, and should be dealt. Even with Milledge's headaches (and .289 OBP), he's only 22 and perhaps better than we could expect.
Still, Terry should be able to get something good for Luis.
NBA refs, and a question for Britt or knowledgeable hoops heads -
In looking over Donaghy's track record, I noticed how many different partners he (and other refs) work with - they basically have no set crews, like baseball. Given the baseball umpiring is arguably the best (though easiest) of the major sports, would the NBA be better served if there were set crews who knew each other and could work as a team?
To clarify: this doesn't have anything to do with Donaghy's alleged betting, but more with Simmons' long-running complaint about NBA officials' quality.
Closed-circuit to 30 Rock fans - a dollar sez next season the show links Donaghy to Alec Baldwin's character (aka Jack Donaghy).
Deep Throat's three words of advice to Woodward and Bernstein remain peritinent:
"Follow the money."
Let's start at the top of the NBA Funnel. There are two primary sources of revenue, one with a short fuse, one with a long one. The short fuse is Season Ticket Renewal. Wolves Season Ticket holders have their (our) 2/3 balance due six days from now. Other teams probably aren't much different. How many of us give pause to our decision? What will that pause cost Glen Taylor? I know one guy who spends six figures on his Wolves tix and happened to run into him earlier today. I asked him his thoughts about Donaghy and he was firm in his conviction that Donaghy is the one bad egg. I (who spend low four figures on my Wolves tix) am not so sure.
The revenue source with the long fuse is TV. The League signed a deal in late June with ABC/ESPN and TNT that gives the NBA and its teams about $930 Million per year through 2016. The deal got announced around the 27th of June. That's after Stern said he learned about Donaghy but before he could do anything publicly about it. Serious questions arise in my mind. Did Stern say anything to his $7+ billion business partners about this? Is there anything in the contracts regarding integrity of the game? What remedies might the networks have? Will the next round of Pro Sports TV contracts have "integrity of the game" language placed in them?
A lot is at stake here. I agree with Andy B. that the weaker members of the herd have more at risk when the environment takes a fast and hard turn for the worse. By any standard the Wolves qualify as a weaker member of the NBA herd.
There are interesting money issues further down the food chain too, but I'll save those for another post.
What Chuck T is referring to is the 13-1 blowout administered by Toronto this afternoon to complete the sweep. This included an 11-run 6th inning in which Reyes and Rincon surrendered six runs on four hits and two walks in 20 total pitches without retiring a batter.
Toronto is now tied with the Twins at 51-50 in the wild card race, behind three other teams.
Castillo for Milledge? I'd do it in a second, even with Milledge's way arrogant attitude, and danging Castillo to a team that has relied upon a gimpy Jose Valentin (who fieldly poorly and doesn't turn the double play well when he's healthy) and Ruben Gotay at second base and can no longer be considered the favorite to come out of the NL, given the pitching of the Padres and the balance of the Dodgers, not to mention the dangerous Cubs. But as recently as two years ago, Milledge was regarded as one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and even his recent showoffs (slapping hands with fans after big hits and catches) and injuries shouldn't have diminished the luster that much--he's a five tool guy. Seriously, I would think long and hard about Castillo *and* Nathan for Milledge if I was assured he'd re-sign here and the Mets would include somebody else who wasn't so high-profile but had been identified as a sleeper by the Twins scouts.
And yes, I'd do Torii Hunter for Melky Cabrera too.
Good thread Chuck. Anyone else?
C'mon guys, it's baseball season. Let's stick to one sport per post, shall we?
Anyone who's ever been to a game with me know I'm as naively optimistic as Twins fans come, but even I couldn't read the box from today's matinee, without concluding that the season's over. I'll still watch, because it's summer and that's what we do, but let's face it. Ryan's a seller this week, and here's hoping he can milk a bit more excitement out of the season by making a big trade.
That means Hunter, Castillo, or Nathan should be gone by this time next week. Where are they going? Who are we getting? I'd love to hear your thoughts, hypothetical as this little game may be.
I'll start: I remember reading early on that the Mets have always been high on Castillo. If we package him him with a young pitcher, we could possibly fill our centerfield hole with Lastings Milledge.
Any others? Hunter to Texas? Or the Yanks, for Melky?
iI think what mainly concerns me about the Donaghy betting scandal is not how it will affect me and my fascination with the NBA. I think Stern is handling it right and I will always continue following the NBA was I have since I was about 10 years old.
My concern is how this affects my favorite team who already has enough to worry about in rebuilding a fanbase. There are enough reasons to stay away from Target Center next year and I fear that if the Wolves return to respectability next year, no one will notice but those who come here (On the Ball) and the development of the young players will be lost on everyone else. The NBA will take a hit and it will be felt most strongly in places that don't have a strong fanbase.
I'm trying to stay positive about the Twins, but it seems like it gets tougher and tougher to watch lately. What can you say when you've just watched their NINTH shutout this year and there's still 60 game or so left? Does anyone keep track of how many times a team gets shut out in a season because I've gotta think this is on pace for a record for the team, if not the majors.
That said, I still think the Twins should be pursuing a player like Ty Wigginton that they could try and keep around for a few years. His salary isn't that ridiculous yet and he's an obvious upgrade in the lineup with a knack for go-ahead and game-tying hits, according to his player bio.
I agree with Britt that Bill Simmons is a great columnist, but I have to say I read him more for entertainment value than his sports perspective. I guess I consider him to be ESPN's version of Jon Stewart or something. At the risk of being a total suck-up, I'm very grateful to both Britt for writing "On the Ball" and to Tom Bartel for providing this forum after Britt parted ways with City Pages. I'm not sure I could have gotten through the past couple of Timberwolves seasons without it.