A few items while I wait for Wednesday night's Warriors-Mavs and Nugs-Spurs games...
There have been many fine tributes to author David Halberstam (my favorite is the superb excerpting of his work by Glenn Greenwald in Salon), and I'd have to put The Making of a Quagmire and The Best and the Brightest alongside Michael Herr's Dispatches as the three best books ever written about Vietnam. But my favorite Halberstam book, and the best book ever written about sports, period, in my eyes, is Halberstam's The Breaks of the Game, his account of the Portland Trailblazers during the 1979-80 season. Before Breaks the notion of looking at the inner workings of franchises through the prisms of salaries and race was almost without precedent, unless one was dealing with hoary history. Even today, the book remains a jewel of reporting, analysis, and fine writing. It set a new template for nearly every sports-related book that followed it.
Halberstam was not perfect. I found The Reckoning to be overly black and white in its indictment of American auto companies and its praise of the Japanese, and his book on Michael Jordan, like everything ever written about the greatest basketball player ever, fails to get past Jordan's defenses. But rarely does a writer make such a profound impact on both athletics and international affairs. Halberstam did it the hard way, with relentless reporting and painstaking craft that, at its best, was thrilling to read for the ideas and images that filled your head.
Have you heard that Andrei Kililenko broke down and cried in the Utah Jazz locker room on Sunday over the way he has been used recently by Jazz coach Jerry Sloan. During the Jazz's first two playoff games, both losses to the Rockets, AK-47 had a grand total of 2 points, 4 rebounds, 1 assist, and 6 fouls in just 34 total minutes of play. Note to Glen Taylor and Kevin McHale: Unless Kirilenko has totally fallen off the face of the earth in terms of talent or emotional stability, he would make a gorgeous bookend next to Kevin Garnett as the Wolves' small forward. The salary is a whopper, running from $13.7 million next year up to $17.8 million in 2010-11. That's a lot of coin to invest in someone who averaged 8 points, 5 rebounds and three assists this year. But anyone who has watched Kirilenko play knows that numbers don't do him justice. He is one of the most versatile defenders in the league, a high-energy guy who is a terrific shot-blocker and team player. He had a thumb injury this year, but something larger is affecting him and his relationship with Sloan. If the Wolves are serious about upgrading next year, one might think they could swap Ricky Davis and his expiring contract plus Mark Blount (Davis and Blount are almost a perfect match for Kirilenko's salary), or better pieces such as Trenton Hassell or Marko Jaric, who both would fit Sloan's hard-nosed style of play. Due diligence is required to ensure that Kirilenko isn't damaged goods in some way. But if there is a chance of him returning to his prime of two years ago (he's only 26 now), well, this guy is an underrated former All Star.
And while we're on the subject of the Wolves, Luol Deng's coming-out party in the Heat series may have effectively eliminated any chance of Minnesota dealing KG to the Bulls. Any talks and rumors about KG to Chicago always started with Minnesota getting Deng plus at least one other quality starter plus a high draft pick in return. But Deng has been a monster in the playoffs, averaging 30 points per game. Watching Deng play earlier this year made me consider the wisdom of dealing Garnett for the first time since the superstar arrived here a dozen years ago. Bottom line, with Deng's strong and steady improvement and Garnett's slight slippage this year, the Wolves couldn't expect to get too much more of value out of the Bulls along with Deng in any deal. And if the Bulls make it all the way to the Finals, which is certainly possible, it is unlikely they'll want to part with Deng at all.
Finally, why is it that some athletes always seem to be injured while others are just as consistently able to perform every game? I was thinking of that when I read the agate type on major league baseball players in this morning's Strib. Ken Griffey Jr. missed four games with what was originally diagnosed as the flu and later was called diverticulitis. Former dominating closer Eric Gagne is heading back to the disabled list with a hip injury. Former dominating starter Mark Prior had shoulder surgery today. A's outfielder Milton Bradley pulled his hamstring again and is on the 15-day DL. And the sun will rise in the east tomorrow morning.


-Patrick
My bad I should have been more specific there. I should have said... "coming off monster stat season in a contract year".
As far as T Hud. I believe that a team has the option to buy out a players contract but, the money stays against the cap for the remainder of the contract. A while back I thought T- Hud had only 2 years left and for me that made it unwise to buy his contract out. Because he wouldn't be terrible coming off the bench as a 3rd stringer. And then the following year get some expiring contract value. But as it stands, T-Hud is here for 3 more years. Sadly, I think we are stuck with T-Hud until the end. Like I said before, the Wolves should have used that Webber clause thing to get rid of T-hud and not Hoiberg...More disturbing is that they signed him for so long. Britt did an interview with Glen Taylor that I thought was candid and honest. One question Britt asked was about the signing of T-Hud. Originally the Wolves wanted to do incentive based salary contract but the NBA doesn't allow for it. But Glen's answer to signing T-Hud made little sense. Glen basically said he would give T-Hud what he wanted before all the crap...come contract time; although now an unwise decision to sign T-Hud could not "re-neg" on his word. So that's why we signed this guy. Damn the franchise, damn the cap room, damn the roster spot, I promised T-Hud. And T-Hud has paid you back so well...Ok..whatever Glen wake up. Yeah I'm not very happy about T hud..but then again I'm not very happy about anything this organization has done the last number of years. McHale saying we need to get bigger at the 3 and 4 because the NBA doesn't really feature a "true" 5 anymore. What NBA is he watching? National Badminton Association? Last I checked Shaq is in the playoffs with the heat, Duncan with the Spurs, Ming with the Rockets, Howard with Orlando, Nene with Denver..etc..To me it's just an excuse for his ineptness in getting a quality big man here via draft. Yes, I do understand that whoever gets the #1 pick is VERY unlikely to deal it, but oh no heaven forbid the Wolves to even think about it. Seriously What are we gonna do next year??!?! a Mid-level to get someone in here? ok...There were at least 4 big men who were on the market this year and we didn't do squat to get one. Oh hey..when Mad dog went down did they sign a big? Nope. When we could have signed anyone...ANYONE during the year to just try them out..to see what they got..like an ollie miller whatever..we didn't even do that. How can we believe this franchise is committed to anything?
I agree with Britt, the playoffs have been sooo refreshing for me to watch. See the hustle, grit, hard play and heart. Man..it's clear as crystal why we aren't in the playoffs. We don't belobg on the same court with any of them...
I'm coming in a little late to this thread, but let me echo Britt here; The Breaks of the Game is a great, great book. It was my introduction to Halberstam, and to pro basketball; reading it was actually what compelled me to begin following the NBA. If you have not read it, do yourself a favor and track down a copy--I doubt you will be disappointed.
The thing at which Halberstam excelled, in my view, was in drawing on a multitude of sources to craft a thoughtful, complete portrait of an individual. He does this with dozens of people in Breaks, and brings the Trail Blazers, and others surrounding and associated with the NBA of that time, vivdly to life.
I read The Best and the Brightest more recently, and was a bit surprised at its lack of flowing narrative feel (most likely because, as I found out later, it originally began as a series of articles for Harper's magazine), but his skill in creating full and complex drawings of the key personalities involved, with all their strengths and foibles, is on glorious display. I couldn't help but notice the eerie parallels with our current government in the run-up to our contemporary little Iraq adventure.
I regret his passing very much. The only consolation is that he had already led a full and productive life. RIP Mr. Halberstam.
What would you give for a SHRED of hope right now?
May 22 is like reverse Russian Roulette. One-in-six chance of not getting stuck with the 7th pick. Five empty chambers and one magic bullet.
Odds Witt's not head coach next season? 7 to 1.
Odds more meetings attended by more people positively impacts decision making? 5 to 1.
Two out of three on these (Top 3 pick, no more Witt, improved deal-making) gives this team a chance to make meaningful improvement.
If you buy my odds (call me A.K. the Greek), getting 2 out of 3 of these this off-season is a 30 to 1 or 40 to 1 shot. About the same as hitting your number on one spin at the Roulette table.
Ouch.
I salute the dreamers, I really do. But there is absolutely nothing coming out of Glen Taylor or Kevin McHale that indicates anyone other than Randy Wittman will be roaming the sidelines for the Wolves next season.
I think I would prefer Carlisle to Brown. Carlisle was on the verge with Detroit, and may have made it with Rasheed. He also might stay longer than Brown. Remember, with a roster of malcontents (New York), Brown didn't fare all that well. Thinking that we will dump all of ours in a year is wishful thinking.
I saw a draft that had B Wright falling down to our pick. The reasoning goes that Seattle has it's eyes on Yi and Portland is pretty good up front and want the other Wright. Both are reasonable, as is Milwaukee taking Horford. The only stretch, and it's a doozy, is Phoenix thinking J Noah would be a better fit.
We gotta dream, anyway. More likely we're looking at Hibbert vs. Conley vs. pick your 6'7"/6'8" guy.
I am hoping the Wolves don't pick Brewer, and I am a bit concerned that many of the mock drafts have the Wolves taking him. Brewer is 6'8 and he's the same weight as Mike Conley (at 6'1) who is rail thin. Brewer's lack of bulk and jump shot/handle will limit him at the NBA level. Sure he can defend the perimeter, but a #7 pick in this loaded draft?
With regards to coaches, Taylor should make a major play for Larry Brown. I see Foye as a more explosive Billups, and it was Brown who really elevated Billups game. I also think Brown and KG would mesh well.
Davis's expiring contract makes him a valuable asset next season. If the Wolves could pull off a AK deal, it would be a coup for the Wolves, and give Utah the means to get a player that better fits what they need (two guard). And in the meantime, Davis could be valuable off the bench. Considering Davis has never played for a coach that won't coddle him, there might even be better results.
My dream scenario that is not farfetched:
The Wolves get Larry Brown.
Draft Corey Brewer, who, IMO, will right away become one of the best perimeter defenders in the league, and is also an upgrade offensively. If not Brewer, then point guard Mike Conley, who will come in as one of the fastest players in the NBA, a good distributor and a leader.
Trade for AK.
Having a core of KG, AK, Brewer or Conley, Foye and McCants would point this team in the right direction.
We're only a week into the off-season, and just the thought of Carlisle on the Wolves bench, with the wingspan of KG and AK on the defensive end, gets me excited for 07-08. But I truly feel that a proven coach is going to improve the Wolves more than any single player they could possibly acquire would. So Carlisle combined with just 2-3 roster tweeks could completely transform the Wolves. Just bring us a damn center who can play D, and a deadly outside shooter, please.
I can agree with the four points Jesse laid out, but the problem is who's left?
Why would a GM from another team trade us players that are young, durable, and contributors to a winning record?
Especially given what we have to offer in return?
Jesse,
Free agents are by definition coming off contract seasons. If you are suggesting we apply these guidelines to potential trade candidates, you are severely overestimating the Wolves position.
Great strategy for buidling a team with cap space, but we are in bad shape, and we are going to have to roll the dice on some players that other teams don't want for some of the reasons you mention above.
Does anyone know the cap implications of buying out Hudson's contract? There's no way anyone's taking him in a trade, but can we exclude his whole salary from our cap space by buying him out??
Marko is also pretty unmoveable, and we may actually need him to play some PG, assuming Mike James is gone (as well as Huddy).
From the quotes I am reading from Taylor and McHale it sounds like they are going to desperately try to dump some players. Don't hold your breath for anyone good, but hopefully we can get a few overpaid big guys to balance the roster (and show the fans mgmt isn't sitting on their asses). See my previous post for a list of guys that are likely available.
I included guys like Simmons and Jeffries because they are real 3s, not tweener SF/SGs like Davis and Hassell (both of whom could be gone).
Britt, I agree with you on getting AK over here. And I see much hope because their salaries (monies) match.
I'm not so sure that the Jazz wouldn't mind having Ricky Davis off the bench. And if anything his value as an expiring contract should be enticing. I don't think however Mark Blount is desired there. They have Okur who is a lot better than Blount. So instead of Blount maybe we do have to give a some other players. But I'd do this in a heart beat...or less
As far as those free agents you mentioned... please cross of any of those that are:
1. Old (28 years +) Keep in mind NBA age as it relates.
2. Injury prone
3. Coming off a contract season
4. Played for a team with a losing record.
If only McHale had followed this simple outline...
Exactly!, Moroni. Carlisle led the pre-Champ Pistons to a division title, and has shown he can win with limited star power. McHale would be foolish to not give Rick a serious, serious look. Bring him in, make a few roster-changes, and we immediately become a .500 team again, in my opinion.
Speaking of roster-changes, I say deal Ricky Davis first and foremost. Blount, Jaric and Hudson are all expendable, but at least they, under a good coach, can likely fill a role, whether it's bringing opposing centers out of the paint, defending larger guards, or coming off screens to hit outside shots.
Carlisle's situation may have seemed a little familiar. Homestate basketball hero team president makes years of disastrous personnel moves. When the blame is so easy to place, there is really no option but to fire the coach.
I also wanted to mention the pondering of the KG trade. I can totally agree with Taylor on this. I think it should be up to KG if he wants to leave. He's meant too much to the franchise to force him out. Kirby was getting pretty round in 1993 and the management could have received great value for him. Of course, you don't do that because he's the face of the franchise. The wolves have had only one face.
Interesting observations by CSE about Sloan and the Jazz. However, I doubt Sloan would retire the season after returning to the playoffs after being out of them for two years. Seems like he would stick around to see what they can build around Boozer, Williams, and Okur. I do think AK will be traded this offseason, and while he makes good money, he is a valuable asset for trading. I think the Jazz can count on getting a first round pick in any deal for AK, something the Wolves don't have to offfer. I would like to believe this could happen, but I doubt it.
The season of the brawl Rick Carlisle had one of the best coaching seasons I have ever seen. With his three best players down for a significant chunk of the season, he lead them to the playoffs with zero talent on the team. After that season I've always held Carlisle in high esteem. He had one of the least talented teams in the NBA playing ball well above .500. I would be extremely excited to have him on the Wolves bench, he's an above average coach at worst, and a top ten coach in my opinion. Anyone but Wittman '07!
Interesting article in the Strib today abvout Taylor taking a more hands on approach to the organization. Not sure it's a good thing but it really looks like the Wolves will be shaking things up this offseason.
I wouldn't have Diaw in that group if the idea is to highlight other teams' garbage. He was the NBA's most improved player last season and a lifesaver for the Suns when he played multiple positions due to other player injuries. But if the Suns wanted to deal him, I'd take him as long as we didn't also have to take Banks back.
I can't see the Wolves taking Miles, Martin, Randolph or Walker after all their talk about how "the experiment" was a "failure."
I could live with Foyle, Cardinal or Miller because I think they could maybe help from a chemistry standpoint along with also possibly helping in the post.
Not sure why we would want Simmons or Jeffries when we already have too many swingmen and they're no better than what we have now, but I wouldn't want Murphy or Radmanovic based on what I know about them. I don't know enough about Gadzuric, Battie or Thomas to say one way or the other.
Since nobody is taking my bait on more big guy speculation, here's a quick run down on frontcourt players whose contracts seem to exceed their value. Since, we are only interested in dealing our garbage, these are the kind of players we'd be getting in return....
Kenyon Martin, Adonal Foyle, Troy Murphy, V Radmonovic, Brian Cardinal, Antoine Walker, Bobby Simmons, D Gadzuric, Jared Jeffries, Tony Battie, S Dalembert, B Diaw, Zach Randolph, Darius Miles, Brad Miller, Etan Thomas
oh sh*t!!! Rick Carlisle's available!!! McHale should go get his former Celtic teammate pronto. To hell with Wittman.
Good points, Cheap Seats.
Sloan came across like a complete homophobe in the coverage and exceprts I saw. AK-47 was one of very few Jazz teamates who reached out to Amechi. Did Sloan's shabby treatment of AK this season coincide with the release of Amechi's book? Is it possible Sloan could be so prejudiced that he changed his view of Kirilenko upon learning that he supported a gay teammate?
Another strike against an AK trade is that it is intra-Division.
AK-47 would be a nice addition to the Wolves and it may make sense for the Jazz to consider moving him ... but is it clear that Sloan will be back next year?
Some points to ponder:
- It's quite likely that his squad is about to be swept by a lower seed.
- Sloan is 65 years old, is growing more out of touch with "today's players" and is at an age where retirement may be desirable.
- There have been rumors that Sloan is considering retirement and has considered it during the past few offseasons.
- He took a lot of heat during the extended John Amaechi news cycle for being an asshole.
I think there's a decent chance Sloan is on his way out. If that's the case, I'd be surprised if Kirilenko is traded.
First thing - when do you guys sleep? Particularly you, Britt. 1105 pm post followed by a 3:49 am retort. You may want to see your doctor about bladder issues or take some steps to reduce the stress in your life.
On Halberstam - he's a renaissance guy on the national stage in the way Britt is on the local stage. If you haven't read any of Britt's local political stuff, you should. This scout will tell you though, that he is most comfortable moving to the left.
I have a soft spot for anyone named AK (there aren't many of us). I knew he was having a weak series - I didn't know there was serious coach-player tension there. I admire anybody who gets one free pass a year from his wife. From a basketball perspective he's a top 60 guy with a chance to thrive here. He's not my first choice in terms of need filling, but he's sure an upgrade from anything we've got after 21.
I love this time of year. If I had fewer obligations and a Robson sleep schedule I could do 12 hours of Round 1 Sat and Sun and then park it from 7-12 every week night. Its the best.
Phoenix is hitting on all cylanders. SA and Dallas will be in a fight to survive. Utah needs two at home or they are finished. Fun stuff.
My thought is after a season and a half with Blount, KG would welcome someone who wanted to play in the post for a change.
I'm just not optimistic about McHale actually pulling off any kind of deal to acquire AK-47 given what he has to offer. Wonder if it would be worth it to also offer to take Derek Fisher off Utah's hands and throw in Mike James? Their numbers are pretty even and Utah would gain cap flexibility, while Minnesota would gain a veteran leader in the locker room.
On a different note, is there any way in hell Glen Taylor could be convinced to make a run for Sam Mitchell? His contract is up after the playoffs, though I would imagine there's pressure on Toronto to keep him around now after his well-deserved Coach of the Year award.
The Kirilenko idea is interesting. There will definitely be a lot of interest in him, and we'd probably need to give up something a little better than Blount and Davis. Although , the guy is clearly overpaid, so that helps with trade leverage. I think we have a shot.
KG-Oden- Kirilenko? What a sweet thought!
Any other ideas out there for frontcourt guys?
Halberstam was quite a writer, gliding effortlessly from topic to topic, while most writers find their niche and are either unable or reluctant to venture beyond. I need to read his Vietnam material. Thanks for commenting on him.
AK-47. If he were to be moved, there would be a number of suitors, like the Wolves, looking to get a premier talent at a reduced price. Utah may bite, given Harpring's success, but would probably be successful in holding out for Davis, Hassel, and Smith. Still, I'd trade those three for AK-47.
Re: Kirilenko - I've seen several articles (no links I'm afraid) that have speculated that part of Kirilenko's problems this year has been that Sloan has insisted on playing him out of position at small forward. Is he actually that much more effective as an undersized four where he can play closer to the basket, allowing him better positon for weak side blocks and rebounds? If this is true, would it effect him on the wolves, that is would his supposed preference to be close to the post mesh with KG's style of play?
Carlos and Aaron both say the Jazz wouldn't do the deal. And maybe they're right. But Kirilenko is losing minutes to Matt Harping when Sloan has to choose who guards McGrady and Battier, and Kirilenko is literally crying in the locker room over frustration or shame with his playing time. And Kirilenko is owed a phenomenal amount of money, up to more than $17 million in 2010-11. Meanwhile, Davis comes off the books next year, giving Utah some spending money for Deron Williams's upcoming deal. If Sloan doesn't want Blount, there's always Hassell or Jaric, both of them Sloan's kind of player (Hassell more than Jaric, who flubs set assignments a little too often to endear himself to Sloan.)
All I'm saying is if the gulf between Sloan and Kirilenko is wide enough, the salary Kirilenko carries is pretty onerous. The guy has scored two points in the last two playoff games and is owed about $60 million over the next four years. And if the Wolves are still trying to build around KG, Kirilenko is a pretty nice complementary piece.
Finally, Carlos, the Salon link I cited has some stuff from Halberstam that is recent, as well as some stuff said long ago that is more contemporary than ever.
Here's another Wolves and playoff related speculative nugget I'll toss out there...
If the Lakers continue to play terribly and lose in 4 or 5 games, you have to think that there will be a major roster overhaul in Lakerland this offseason.
You also would have to think that the Lakers would be very interested in acquiring KG. Now, I'm not sure how the contracts matchup, but what about trading KG for something like Odom and Bynum?
Regardless of whoever their first-round pick ends up being, that would give the Wolves a potential opening night starting lineup of Foye, McCants, Davis, Odom, and Bynum. That's not bad, and there's some upside there too.
Re: Kirilenko -- While I would trade for him and give up Ricky and Blount in a heartbeat, I just can't see why the Jazz would want any part of that package.
I doubt Sloan would want to coach the likes of Davis, and anybody who studies a game or two worth of game film will quickly come to the conclusion that Blount can't help their team.
Sad to say but I had never heard of David Halberstam until Barreiro read an excerpt from his book on Vietnam today on KFAN. Halberstam eloquently summarizes the malaise that has gripped the Johnson administration at the time and it is eerily reminiscent to the situation that the Bush administration finds itself in today. Has he written any books on the current political situation ?
I agree that Kirilenko would fit nicely inn a Wolves uniform but I highly doubt that Jerry Sloan would bite on your purported deal. Neither Blount nor Davis would last in a Sloan system for very long I'm afraid.
While we're fantasizing about the playoffs, I'd totally love to see the Mavs shocked out of the playoffs in the first round.