Regular Season Game #71, Road Game #37, Utah 108, Minnesota 102
1. The Curse of the Rolling Roles
The best things you can say about last night's six-point loss to the division-clinching Utah Jazz are that it removed the Wolves from the stench of their monumental collapse the previous evening, and set them further along the road to keeping their precious draft pick. Otherwise, the differences between the two clubs in terms of teamwork, roles, and substitution rotations were far more glaring than the final margin.
Under Jerry Sloan, everyone on the Jazz knows exactly what he should be doing, and why. The club's starting five is beautifully balanced, with a large, physical, classic point guard in Deron Williams, a low post banger in power forward Carlos Boozer, an energy-oriented disruptor in small forward Kirilenko, an unconventional primary three-point threat in center Mehmet Okur, and a shrewd veteran glue guy cherry-picking his moments in off-guard Derek Fisher.
Now consider the Timberwolves. Let's face it, there is a vacuum at point guard. Mike James was physically and mentally overmatched against Williams, staying with his "aggressive" mantra to the tune of four shots, zero assists and two fouls in the game's first 5:37, sending him to the bench with the Wolves down 9-13. By that time, Willaims had already laid down three dimes and gone 1-2 FG. Randy Foye fared a little better, amassing 17 points and 4 assists in a sizable 38:05 that stemmed from James being unable to contain Williams without fouling (at least he tried that instead of the matador of his first three months). But when it was all done, the Wolves' point guard had 23 points on 22 shots, 4 assists and 3 turnovers. On his own, Williams had 22 points on 9 official shots (he got to the line 14 times, versus 6 for Foye-James), 14 assists and 3 turnovers.
On this ballclub, KG must simultaneously be Kirilenko and Boozer, the banger and the disrupter. And at this point in the season, he's toast, physically and mentally. Usually he has his way with Boozer, but last night Boozer not only matched his point total (25), but outrebounded (11-8) and outassisted (3-1) KG. When that happens, this team ain't gonna beat Utah.
Which brings us to Ricky Davis, who must simultaneously be Williams and Fisher--the guy who initiates the offense and the one smart enough to flow to what is needed from the backcourt. Just for "fun," I thought I'd compare the Wolves' won-lost records with which players led the squad in points and assists. I'm not totally sure what it means--making definitive conclusions on what really is sort of a random correlation--except that the rolling roles on this squad bring a lot of different players into the mix. Anyway, the charitable way to put it is that Minnesota should rely more on Ricky Davis to carry the load for this squad. The uncharitable way to see it is that the Wolves peform much better on the nights Davis bothers to show up. On the team-high 26 occasions when he has led (or co-led) the team in assists, the Wolves are a gaudy 16-10; every other assist-leader sends the team to a sub-.500 mark. For KG, the margin is close, 9-10. For the point guards, it is not. The Wolves are a collective 7-15 when either James (4-10) or Foye (3-5) lead the squad in assists. They are even worse, 3-9, when small forwards Trenton Hassell (2-7) or Marko Jaric (1-2) are the assist leader.
For points, on the 20 times Davis has led the team, they are exactly .500 at 10-10. For everyone else, not so good. When KG tops them in points, it is 17-24; when anyone other than Davis or KG is the point leader, the team is 3-12.
As I say, making definitive judgments on this stuff is very dicey, if not specious. But it does seem to indicate that the point guards are currently incapable of successfully leading this squad in either shooting or dishing; that they are, at best, complementary pieces to the KG-Ricky Show. As for those top two, one might think their versatility would be an asset, and on a more experienced, better-coached ballclub, perhaps that's true. But it has not worked out on this club in this season.
2. Blount Trauma
The sad thing about center Mark Blount is that he literally can't win for trying. Like most Timberwolves observers I've been critical of Blount's absence of intensity and, by extension, integrity, as he has seemingly mailed in his performances since the All Star break, routinely torpedoing Minnesota's hopes for victory in the process. During the 4th quarter Seattle debacle, Blount sat on the bench frequently sporting a "what me worry?" smirk and exchanging pleasantries with other scrubs like Justin Reed and Troy Hudson, oblivious (or not: it is damning either way) to the carnage taking place on the court.
But last night, Blount was hustling his rear off. Not only did he continue showing hard on the pick and roll (his one strength aside from that sweet jumper), but he fought for rebounds with a diligence nearly always in limbo when it comes to Blount and boards. It got to the point where the tables were ironically turned in crunchtime, as Wolves color commentator and fairly steadfast Blount booster Jim Petersen excoriated him for not covering Mehmet Okur on a crucial trey that bumped Utah's margin from 5 to 8, a crippling difference with just 2:58 to play; while I, a fairly steadfast Blount ripper, protested to the heavens that Blount had shown hard on the perimeter to Deron Williams, who deftly zipped it to Mehmet while no other Timberwolf rotated over. Now, it is quite possible Pete knows the defensive rotation strategies in play for Utah, and that Blount was supposed to stay with Okur rather than hound Williams so far outside. In any case, Utah's spacing and savvy trumped Blount's move, and my sense of inner justice when Blount promptly slammed home a feed from Foye at the other end was tempered when Wittman removed Blount from the game after the next possession.
But here's the thing: popcornmachine.net had Blount getting annihilated at -18 during his 35:31 of action, way ahead of Davis and Hassell as the next worst entries at -8. And this was a game in which Blount's hustle and demeanor, if nothing else, were beyond criticism.
The popcornmachine.net numbers also clearly indicate, in reiteration of point one in this trey, that when Jerry Sloan had his main guys working his system, the Wolves were buried. The first Minnesota bonus was when a pair of late draft picks, Craig Smith and Paul Milsapp, were matched up with each other and the Cookie Monster went off, eventually finishing with 14 points for the second period on 5-6 FG and 4-4 FT as Minnesota put up a +11 margin. (Outside of the second period, Smith was 1-4 FG, 0-0 FT and -4 in 9:58.) The second eye-opening stat is that Utah was +18 in the 39:22 that Deron Williams was manning the point, and -12 in the 8:38 he wasn't.
3. Tick Tock
The Wolves have slipped behind Sacramento to 12th place in the West, out of the playoffs by 4 games with 11 left to play. Minutes for Rashad McCants: 6:48. There is still a mathematical chance for the Wolves to bag that 8th spot of course, but the odds are steep enough that you have to wonder if Coach Wittman really is invoking a "tanking with vets" strategy. The lineup of McCants-Foye-Smith-KG-Jaric was actually allowed to play the bulk of that second quarter last night, and went +2. If you go to the 82games.com website and click on their 5-man floor units page (here's the link: http://www.82games.com:80/0607/0607MIN2.HTM), you'll see that that quintet of the three kids plus KG and Marko is a +39 in just 58 minutes together, a rate 82games extrapolates out to a 10-1 record. Giving that unit more time would certainly maximize the potential talent already on this team, but would be hell on securing that draft pick.


Our salary situation really is worse than every other team. We have the most contracts through 2010 of any team, but we don't want to keep those players. Yessir... Blount and Thud... locked in. Also I think 4 others. I don't believe any of the youngsters are among them so KG and them could leave and we'll be building around 5 shooting guards and blount.
Thinking of NBA teams in worse cap condition that the Wolves is actually a worthwhile exercise. I am seeing some names that we may be able to get for some combo of Davis and the three headed overpaid point guard monster Huddy/Jaric/James....Adonal Foyle, Troy Murphy, Jerome James, Brendan Haywood or Etan Thomas, Nazr Mohammed, Rasho, KMart, Dalmebert. Inspiring, no. But garbage in garbage out. At least it would help fill a need.
great discussion so far!. But it just leads to so many things. I asked my friend if there is an NBA team in worse shape than the Wolves. He insisted there was. I said name one. He could only think of the Knicks but really, can we make fun of them for having 30 million guards when we have 29 million? And Crawford and Francis and Maubary at least play and do something. We got Troy and James and Foye and Jaric. Honestly, my theory is that no other team in recent years got caught trying to make an under the table deal and lose 3 years of draft picks. I make that point becuase I think it is pivital when consider how hard that can hurt a team. Also what impact it has on a team's future. Now I don't argue that there are plenty of teams above the salary cap. I don't doubt that there are teams that have way too many long term contracts and owed draft picks. But seriously...Can anyone think of an NBA team in worse condition than the Timberwolves??!!
Paul--
Nice rebuttal. Most of it is just us agreeing to disagree, I suspect, and that's what's great about sports--people see the games differently.
I would only take issue with two of your points. Yes, I think Spree was past his prime, but he expertly paced his first season in Minnesota for maximum value, coming through on the big games. Among the MV3, he was also the "glue guy," the one most willing to subliminate himself for the good of the team and let KG and Sammy reap the spotlight. For those reasons, I don't think RD would have been as valuable on the same team.
Second, even though the teams Davis was on weren't very good--which by your opinion of him would mean that he was one of the best guys, a potential building block--those squads all seemed in a hurry to unload him. He was traded four times in his first eight years and I don't think it would surprise anyone if a fifth trade occurred before his deal runs out next year.
Finally, on the same point, a 50-win team isn't a legit contender so much as a squad hoping to make it past the first round. KG did it a handful of times even without Spree and Sammy. Not Ricky, even beside Paul Pierce.
Sorry Andy B, I missed your question the first time through. I'd like to elaborate on why I think McCants "sucks" and the facets of his game I don't like:
Maybe I’m just bitter because of other guys we passed up on in the draft, I dunno. But I sure would rather have Danny Granger, Gerald Green (More of a project but waaay more upside than McCants), Hakim Warrick, or David Lee. Those guys were all very valid possibilities as someone we could have drafted. So, perhaps I subconsciously have unwarranted dislike for McCants because he was drafted over these guys. I didn’t think he was all that great in college, I mean, look at the team he was on (Felton, May, Marv Williams – No wonder they won the title) I think he looked much better by association. Also, it wasn’t his fault that he got injured. Regardless, it’s something you have to take into consideration when evaluating him. Will he ever be able to perform at the top level that may be capable of? Who knows. Could he get injured again? Possibly.
Regardless of those thoughts, what has he shown us? Sure, I agree with you that he has performed better this year than last. But really, how hard was that? He was absolutely terrible last year. (I don’t think anyone would dispute that.) Part of it seems to be an attitude change and the propensity to actually buckle down and play (or at least give the effort and try) on defense. That’s a good thing. So yeah, he’s better, but I would hope he would be; because as a lottery pick you kind of expect those players to get better every year. He’s not scoring as much this year because he’s not as explosive. Well, why’s that? Is he still feeling the effects of his injury? (If so, he should NOT be playing.) What if he never regains that explosiveness? Should we not dog him then because he was injured and couldn’t come all the way back? If that’s the case he’s just a glorified jump shooter and god knows we don’t need another one of them. I hope that’s not the case, but you never know. As for some people talking about him needing time to come back from the microfracture surgery, or "Look at Amare", it just doesn't seems like he has the work ethic or "want-to" to focus on the rehab and return like Amare did. They are two different people. Also, for every Amare or JKidd that eventually comes back, there are a plethora of guys that succumb to micro fracture surgery and are never the same. I'm just not gonna hold my breath waiting, that's all.
Lastly, he still does some things that absolutely turn my buttons. Namely, standing on the three point line and clapping for the ball. Are you serious Rashad? My goodness, move around, screen, run the offense, DO SOMETHING. You can’t see it as well on TV but by being at the games you can see all the times where he simply runs to one spot behind the arch and just stands there, doing nothing. It’s incredibly frustrating. Granted, he doesn’t do it as much as last year (which was 80% of the time in my opinion) but he is still doing it way too much this year for someone who isn’t all that great of a 3 PT Shooter.
Also, his lack of rebounding. Sometimes he does, I’ll give him that. But there are times every game when you can count on him being the first one to turn and sprint back from Defense when a shot goes up by the other team. He’s usually around the mid court line when the ball is rebounded. C’mon, help rebound the ball… it’s one of our biggest weaknesses.
As I already agreed with you on, yes his defense is *better* and he tries, but still, it’s not consistently really good or anything to really write home about. (Sometimes yes, it is, but not enough to give him the label of being a good defender.)
Anyhow, that’s about all I got on Shaddy. This was a bit more articulate and fair, so to speak. At least you can see my dislike of McCants, or at least the dislikes of some aspects of his game.
Britt,
My bad on the plus-minus. It's still one of the best on the team, and those three guys ahead of him have not played significant minutes.
Spree was more valuable because he was on a better team. If Cassell and the rest of the cast is the same as the WFC team, Davis would be just as valuable as Spree. Note that I am only comparing Davis to the "past his prime" Spree that the Wovles got.
I used KG era because that is what I know. I know zilch about the pre-KG Wolves. Moved out here in '98, but followed the Wolves when they drafted KG.
Not sure I see the significance of two man tandems. When we look at 5 man units, 6 of the top 7 Wolves units include Davis. That top unit is still +27 when Davis replaces McCants. Davis is also part of the only non-KG unit that's in the plus column.
I agree that Davis can *once in a while* do stuff that can be frustrating. However, he ain't the problem here.
Those teams that Davis was on weren't exactly stocked, now were they? If we don't expect KG to turn a bad team into a contender, how can we expect Davis to?
I missed you guys the last week, sure sounds like I didn't miss much from the Wolves, though.
That bastion of journalistic dribble for the traveling class (USA Today) had an interesting piece yesterday on NBA contracts. It included an exhaustive team-by-team, player-by-player contract summary (current year dollars, total of contract, term of contract).
There is only one team in the NBA with seven players whose contracts do not expire until 2010 or later. That's the Minnesota Timberwolves. And the one guy on the Wolves with star-quality can walk at his discretion after 93 more games with the club.
Seven 3-4 year financial anchors and a superstar with one foot out the door. Oh, yeah and two first rounders already committed to Boston and the Clips.
Maybe Tubby can help out a little in his free time.
Britt thetwo-man tandem stats are interesting. I went there wondering about Foye and Jarics, but was quickly sidetracked by comparing how KG does with each member of the Wolves. I think it adds evidence to the "tank by veterans" conspiracy. Here is what I culled from the list
(Tandem - Minutes, +/-, +/- per 48)
1. KG/McCants - 213, +71, +15.9
2. KG/Wright - 59, +16, +12.9
3. KG/Madsen - 165, +34, + 9.9
4.. KG/Smith - 605, +85, +6.7
5. KG/Foye - 992, +61, +3.0
6. KG/Hassell - 1745, +24, +0.7
7. KG/Davis - 2073, +17, +0.4
8. KG/Jaric - 850, +1, +0.1
9. KG/James - 1533, -28, -0.9
10. KG/BLount - 1739, -36, -1.0
11. KG/Hudson - 369, -23, -3.0
12. KG/reed - 86, -40, -22.2
13. KG/Griffen - 35, -22, -30.0
I think this demonstrates the young guys play better with our superstar than the starters.
College Wolf - Now, how is it that McCants sucks?
No, Ricky was a bit player at best on those 2 teams.
In 99-00 with Charlotte, he played an average of 11.9 minutes in 48 games while putting up 4.7 points per game.
In 00-01 with Miami, he only played in 7 games the entire season.
Thanks Stephen--I stand corrected. Was RD a significant part of that Miami team, or in Charlotte's 49-win team the previous year? Again, I could be wrong, but I just don't remember him being integral to any squad I watched in the playoffs--but that was 7-8 years ago and the memory dims...
Did a little digging for you, Britt...
Ricky Davis team records by year.
98-99 season Charlotte=26-24
99-00 season Charlotte=49-33
00-01 season Miami=50-32
01-02 season Cleveland=29-53
02-03 season Cleveland=17-65
03-04 season Boston=36-46
04-05 season Boston=45-37
Paul--
I love the way you parse your praise of Davis: "Statistically, Davis is playing better than any two guard the Wolves have had in the KG era." The "KG era" part eliminates Tony Campbell and Doug West from consideration (I'd argue West was better, Campbell slightly worse, in their primes than Davis), and the "statistically" part nudges aside Spree and Malik Sealy. But do you seriously think Buckets is more valuable than Spree was in the WCF year (remember the SA game down the stretch for the top seed and the three playoff series where Spree came up huge) or the selfless Sealy was in blending his talents into the team? Yeah, Davis *can* play D almost as well as Sealy, but we only see it two or three games (or sometimes two or three possessions) at a time. His defense has been a significant factor in at least a half-dozen losses this season.
As for +/-, Davis ain't second--McCants and Madsen also have higher averages, and McCants doesn't have the advantage of the 20-16 start (he was injured) when the Wolves as a team were in the plus column rather than the nearly -200 they are now. Davis also benefits from getting more court minutes alongside KG than anyone. Go to the 82games.com site and look up the two-man tandems. You'll see that Davis's is in the plus column with only one other player--Hassell, a guy who doesn't shoot and plays D. Why am I not surprised that that's what Davis needs to be successful. When Davis and KG are measured in the two-man tandem the net plus/minus is zero. Meanwhile, KG is a whopping +7 with Smith (think this team could use a banger?), +3 with Foye, +1 with Hassell and, as with Davis, zero with Jaric. And why is it that the most successful 5-man combination on this squad doesn't include Davis? Finally, has Ricky Davis ever played on a 50-win team? (I honestly don't know, but I suspect he hasn't.)
Davis is a marvelous talent who has provided as many highlights as anyone on the squad this year. But if you don't think he's part of the problem with this 30-41 squad, you're not paying attention.
To the poster who was down on McCants, remember the injury he is recovering from. Amare was even worse when he first came back. I've been pleased with McCants and expect him to be a solid player next season.
I don't see any reason to be down on Davis. I think some of us here tend to go a little overboard on him. Ricky Davis is not the problem. The Wovles are losing because of James and the lack of bigs.
Statistically Davis is playing better than any two guard the Wolves have had in the KG era. Even better than Spree in the WCF season. He's one of the best scorers, passers and defenders on the team. He's got the second best +/- rating on the team (I'm not including Bracey). He's not afraid to take the big shots. He's willing to defend anybody.
I just don't get the anti-Davis sentiment.
IMO, there is a good nucleus with KG, Davis, Smith, Foye, McCants, Jaric/Hassell. The problem is it's a perimeter dominated nucleus, Hassell and Jaric are very similar, the PG in the nucleus is a rookie, and everybody after that nucleus stinks.
If the Wolves can get a quality big in the offseason, get a decent coach who starts Foye and keeps him there, and get a good player in the draft (assuming they keep the pick), there is hope for next season.
The issue of roster balance nails it on the head. That's where my question on McCants future was going. We need to dump at least two of these perimter players in order to free up minutes. So, given contracts, and other issue around tradability....who goes?
1) Hudson
2) Hassell
3) Jaric
4) Davis
5) McCants
6) James
7) Foye
I'd take another teams big man with a bad contract if we could get rid of any combination of Hudson, James, Jaric, or Davis. It'll be tough though...Ricky's a well known headcase (although 1 year on his contract) and the others have pretty bad contracts.
As is always the case, the guys we'd want to keep are the players other teams would actually covet. Since the above players would be so difficult to dump, we need to also seriously consider getting rid of either Hassell, McCants, or Foye.
Any move to balance the roster would be addition by subtraction.
Unrelated, in defense of Ricky/Blount, it could be a lot worse. We could be paying Wally to sit on his ass and grumble.
Ricky Davis in Litel's interview: "I'm going to play all of the minutes and make the team better" It looks to me like Ricky only has the first part right. Man, is he ever one frustrating player to watch. When he shows his athleticism, you think he could be mentioned among the excellent 2 guards in the league. But mostly, he doesn't play defense, has no sense wrt the shot clock, and misses "big" shots. Bleh.
I don't know about "locker room cancer" (which would be my diagnosis), but his game on the court - and the extensive minutes he's logged at the expense of developing players - has pretty much toasted the Wolves this year. Not that he is the only cause of the Wolves woes, but I feel that he should have had a much more positive impact given the minutes he played.
Witt was on KFAN today and explained that McCants didn't play much the last two games due to being ill (strep). In response to "Will you play the kids more now?" he said he's been playing them and will continue to (status quo?). In the paper he said they'd play more only if they earned the minutes.
For next season, he said the team needs more size, roster balance (fewer guards) and experience. That last part is worrisome. More below average vets taking time away from our future?
Okay, nice stuff as usual, and some questions of me you want answered.
First, on "tanking with the vets": Shawn wants to know if I'm half-serious or more in the allegation and Midlife decides I'm now among the dark-sided conspiracy theorists. My response is a deliberate cop-out: I won't be in the business of claiming Wittman and company are purposefully losing games when they have said otherwise and I have no evidence to the contrary. But the alternative is that, as Shawn says, Witt is concerned about locker room fallout, particularly with respect to the Boston guys (on that score, go over to citypages.com and dig up Stephen Litel's interview with Davis, if you haven't already--Davis definitely draws a line in the sand saying he wouldn't look kindly on returning to a 6th man role). Or that he really believes, against the admittedly slim available evidence, that Blount-James-Davis-Hassell are better KG complements than Smith-Foye-Jaric-McCants.
Do I think Wittman is tanking? Unfortunately, no, I think he's afraid of the fallout, which is one of the reasons he inexplicably went off about no policing in the locker room last week. At the very least, if the Wolves are tanking they aren't doing it as obviously as last year, when KG and RD got "hurt" and Madsen thought he was the second coming of George Gervin for about 8 minutes. And for all you Casey defenders, remember, that happened on Casey's watch.
Patrick wonders about McCants's future with the team. I have been a big yo-yo about McCants in the short time he's been here. First I was loudly praising the pick as the sort of calculated gamble McHale needed to make last year on a theoretically problematic player with a huge upside who could help KG quickly. Then, when I saw how unprepared McCants was to defend in the NBA and how much of a punkish attitude he seemed to adopt in response, I went pretty negative on his future. The last month and a half of the season, when McCants's learning curve turned upward while the sneer leavened out, coupled with his ongoing admiration for KG, left me warily supportive. But the almost 180 degree (about 165) turnaround in his approach to the game, the media and the general public had me pert and curious about the caliber of his comeback. All the ways he ingratiated himself to the fans and media (the promotions on the jumbotron, the "Lucky 1's," etc. and the easygoing manner in which he was conducting his interviews) was all well and good, but by itself meant little if he hadn't progressed on the court. Truth be told, I've always been a little skeptical of PR bullshit, and went the other way in defense of JR Rider way back in the day. But what has put me solidly back in the pro-McCants camp has been the marked improvement in his defense and the general maturation of the way he thinks on the court. It wouldn't be out of line to regard McCants as you would a rookie; he's only played about 100 more NBA minutes than Foye at this point. And yet you can really see that he "gets it" in terms of the legendary "little things" that foster team synergy.
So, yeah, last night wasn't his most energetic performance. But the dude has barely cracked double-digit minutes in the past month while his team goes in the toilet, even as the squad improves fairly consistently in the few stints Wittman does deign to let him play. If anyone deserves to cop an attitude or trade humorous anecdotes on the bench during a game or play lethargically out of petulance, McCants is among them. Instead, I'd say that description more often fits Blount lately. Blount played hard last night and was -18. McCants didn't seem to be playing that hard and was +2. Maybe he's just noticing what kind of behavior usually gets PT on this dysfunctional squad.
Finally, Snyder guesses that RD's assist leadership probably yields higher per-game assist numbers than the point guard's. To be honest, I thought the same when he wrote it, but then I looked it up and discovered that there really was a time when people could be excited about the Wolves beyond their place in the lottery....like the beginning of the New Year, when first Foye and then James went off for back-to-back 10-assist games is overtime wins over Philly and Houston. James also has another 10-assist game and a team-season high 11 assists versus the Lakers less than two weeks ago. Garnett has hit ten assists thrice this year. Davis has never reached double figures this season.
It's too bad we let Eddie Griffin, Ebi, Rick Rickert, Will Avery and Shane Heal get away. Then we'd really have a chance at locking down that top pick. Well, maybe.
Not sure on the Casey race thing, but man, Freddie H. sure is about as Caucasian as they come. Casey should never have been hired. He was an experiment that had a slight chance of an upside due to his lack of head coaching experience. And as soon as they brought back Wittman, Casey was going to be under the microscope. Good guy, good worker, maybe one day with another team, but this team had/has a bunch of head cases that need a tougher, no-doubt-who's-in-charge approach.
McHale will explain Wittman thusly: "He came in a third of the way into the season, and even though we were at .500, the team was unsettled and "not responding" to Casey. At .500, there's no consistency. At least now, 15 games under .500, we're consistently bad and we know the direction we need to go." (Cue sound effect of casting reel and lure hitting water)
Patrick,
I agree with you about the good chances of Seatle, Portland and Philadelphia passing us. I'd add Charlotte and Atlanta to that list too.
Looking at the remaining games for the Wolfies, I don't see very many ending up in the win column. The Wolves have 30 wins now. Seattle and Portland sit at 29, Philly at 28, and Charlotte and Atlanta have 27. Even Milwaukee has a chance of surpassing the Wolves as they stand with 25 wins right now. I could see Minnesota with 32 wins at the end of the season, and if we are lucky, 2 less than that. They may leave us with the third pick, if Memphis can be bought off to give an all out effort on the last game at the Target Center. I'm getting excited just thinking about it.
Oh, And I agree with you about Casey. But, to comment on Midlife bringing up the race issue - I don't think firing Casey had anything to do with race and likewise replacing him with Wittman. I do wonder about the credentials of the heir apparent GM Fred Hoiberg, though.
On Horford's spot in the draft, he'll likely go during 3-5... so we should miss out on him (or anyone near his level). If the woofies continue to play their worst ball since the shaq/mourning draft, we'll end up picking out of the Hawes, Yi and Hibbert group. It will be cool to see Hibbert play Oden, tho if he's great he won't be available and if he stinks we won't want him.
Moroni,
Does your friend not remember Baron Davis crushing one down on KG in Charlotte? Whew.
One of my friends claims Kevin Garnett has never been dunked on. While I personally found his argument to be false, specifically citing a Gasol jam over KG a few years back (he claims KG got beat off the dribble, but wasn't dunked on), his argument now has no merit given the ferocious nature in which Boozer threw down on KG yesterday. I digress...
I am really wondering about the internal talks of tanking. It is evident to anyone with a brain or a stat sheet that the often mentioned KG, Jaric, and the kids line-up is a winning combo. However, the floor time this line-up gets together is usually limitied to a stint in the second quarter, with Blount replacing KG (a key ingredient) in the second half. I'm wondering how McHale is going to explain keeping Wittman around for next year when his record will wind up being attrocious, especially compared to the fired Casey. He won't be able to come out and say, "we directed Wittman to lose, so we can't judge him by his record." I'm interested to see how this plays out, something tells me they've told Wittman to lose and he'll keep his job for next year anyway. Let's just hope nobody has a tape recorder on in the internal meetings or we might be out of picks for the next decade.
A bit off topic, but the last blog post by Arenas is definitely worth the read and explains why I love basketball and Arenas, who clearly also loves basketball. An absolute must read for any basketball fan:
http://www.nba.com/blog/gilbert_arenas.html
Come on!? Nobody thought Casey was a good coach. How could you possibly say he was getting all he coud out of this team? Do you not remember getting blown out every third quarter coming out of the locker room, the questionable substitution patterns, the complete lack of an offensive game plan? Just becasue Wittman is terrible doesn't mean Casey was good.
Could Casey have done better than Wittman....yes. But then we'd all be bitching about the hopelessness of facing one of the West's Big 3 in the playoffs, and not getting a draft pick.
Horford at 9? No chance, unless he blows out his knee in the Final 4. I do think there's a good chance that the Sonics, Blazers, and Sixers leap frog the Wolves in the standings in April. Which could lock us in on a top 10.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/standings?season=2007&group=league&column=...
As of now, the Wolves have the 9th pick (unless the lotto hoses them once again). Will Al Horford be around at the 9 spot?
It sounds like Britt just came over to the dark side.
The season has become so depressing, with such a gap between ours and every other teams preparation, that we have nothing but to look at next year (BTW only Boston, Milwaukee, and Memphis are completely out of reach).
I was wondering, and I don't want this to go completely over the top, but is there anything of a race issue in the coaching hire. The wolves front office looks alot more like Minnesota than the NBA, and McHale came from Hibbing, after all. What is there about a middle age white guy that he is going to get this NBA squad into shape? How was he going to hold people accountable?
McHale can't admit he f'd up this one... even if it's already obvious that Casey was getting everything he could out of these guys. For the first half of the year, Blount may have been our best center ever.
I thought the comments Britt made about assist leaders was really interesting.
One thing that might help bring perspective in analyzing what that means, if anyone wants to take a stab at it, would be to look not just at who led the team in assists, but how many assists the leader had during a given game.
I'm guessing when RD lead the team, he probably has between 7 and 9 assists whereas when Foye or James leads the team, they probably have more like 5 or 6 assists.
Only saw the first half, chose sleep over sitting through another loss. The second quarter was encouraging, with one exception....McCants.
Rashad was a total non-factor, standing around one offense and defense. I can deal with Rashad's inability to finish around the hoop, because I think he's been putting in a good effort on D, and has been a net positive in many of his limited minutes. But last night made me wonder...
What is McCant's future with this team? He's certainly worth keeping, but he has an extension coming up. How much do we offer him given what he has shown (and his shaky knee)? I am fairly sure that he overestimates his market value, and we have a glut of players at his position.
Don't get me wrong, I like his upside. But it seems that the Wolves have some hard choices to make with some of these perimeter players. Who do we pay, who do we dump, and what can we get in return?
The lack of minutes has been a HUGE issue weighing on this team's chemistry and W-L record.
Britt, do you think there is any truth to your half-serious "tanking with the vets" comment? Because it seems like most people who watch this team believe that they'd not only be better but be developing for the future to play the young guys. So the only explanations are that we are all wrong and Witt is right (certainly possible), we are right but Witt is afraid of the lockerroom fallout, or we are intentionally tanking.